Hi,
I have been doing the web based programming from last one year,Lots
of books i had refferred which are mentioning the design issue using
the useCases stuff,which ofcource is a part of the designing.Today
I am able to visualize that on the server there is the object
interaction.So it is just the object design which matters.Any system
consists of the object which do interact among themselves to help
us.
In the database we are creating the tables and other utilities
manually,we do use the s-designer which is the excellent tool.I believe that there has to be some tool by which I can do designing
as I can do with s-designer.(Yes uml)
But how to icorporate that in the web based project since there you
have maximum of the objects as servlets.Hope the guys working in
the web arena for longer time could guide me well.
regards vicky
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UML AND JSP(DESIGN ISSUE) (4 messages)
- Posted by: vicky kak
- Posted on: December 19 2001 04:11 EST
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- UML AND JSP(DESIGN ISSUE) by Larry O on December 19 2001 09:59 EST
- UML AND JSP(DESIGN ISSUE) by vicky kak on December 20 2001 01:17 EST
- UML AND JSP(DESIGN ISSUE) by Larry O on December 20 2001 09:08 EST
- UML AND JSP(DESIGN ISSUE) by Srinivas Vekatappa on December 24 2001 01:47 EST
- UML AND JSP(DESIGN ISSUE) by vicky kak on December 20 2001 01:17 EST
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- Posted by: Larry O
- Posted on: December 19 2001 09:59 EST
- in response to vicky kak
I think you are asking "is there a design tool that will design all three tiers and find the right mix between them?"
There is no such thing (yet). Thank goodness there is always something for the human to do. -
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- Posted by: vicky kak
- Posted on: December 20 2001 01:17 EST
- in response to Larry O
Hi,
No that is not the case,how more the advanced tool gets de
veloped the human still needs to do something.What I mean
to say is how to create a object interaction design at the
server side.Usually what people do they design database(At least for us) and then go for coding.
We didnot spend time on object selection on the
server side.As per my experience and understanding these
steps has to be done before.U can see the demo applications
in professional JSP(Wrox) where the author is using the
uml modelling.there r various tools available for that the
rational rose being the best.Hope u understood now.
regards vicy -
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- Posted by: Larry O
- Posted on: December 20 2001 09:08 EST
- in response to vicky kak
Thank you for clarifying. I think we're still talking about an area where human intelligence beats "artificial intelligence". Deciding where to draw the line between the objects and how they interact is the same problem whether you're designing the server side of a web app or an ordinary Java application. It requires a knowledge of
1) the application domain (ie, accounting, MRP, materials science, whatever)
2) desired performance characteristics (response time, throughout, etc)
3) features & limitations of the target environment
There is no design tool that can take these things into account. -
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- Posted by: Srinivas Vekatappa
- Posted on: December 24 2001 01:47 EST
- in response to Larry O
Yes you are exactly right. I am looking for a tool which can help in all the 3 tiers.
Thanks for your reply.