Together ControlCenter 6.0 was released this week. TogetherSoft takes an iterative model-build-deploy approach to application development. Version 6 introduces extensive IDE enhancements and new modeling functionality.
Check out http://www.togethersoft.com/products/controlcenter/index.jsp
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Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released (21 messages)
- Posted by: Dragos Nenciu
- Posted on: March 25 2002 15:25 EST
Threaded Messages (21)
- Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by yu guisuo on March 26 2002 02:07 EST
- Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Christian Sell on March 26 2002 03:36 EST
- Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Pieter Van Gorp on March 26 2002 04:41 EST
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Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Sunil Maliyakkal on March 26 2002 05:19 EST
- Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Mirko Novakovic on March 26 2002 05:42 EST
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Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by John Davies on March 26 2002 06:24 EST
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Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Emil Kirschner on March 26 2002 10:49 EST
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Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Christian Sell on March 26 2002 11:12 EST
- Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Lance Hankins on March 26 2002 01:28 EST
- Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by John Davies on March 27 2002 05:58 EST
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All in one toolset by Chris Kerns on March 27 2002 10:44 EST
- All in one toolset by Nick Minutello on March 27 2002 08:21 EST
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Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Christian Sell on March 26 2002 11:12 EST
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Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by yu guisuo on March 27 2002 01:13 EST
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Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by John Davies on March 27 2002 05:53 EST
- Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by yu guisuo on March 27 2002 07:35 EST
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Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by John Davies on March 27 2002 05:53 EST
- "There are no state selections for the country you selected" by C Scudds on March 28 2002 04:49 EST
- Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by toy lee on March 28 2002 09:49 EST
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Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Emil Kirschner on March 26 2002 10:49 EST
- Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Christian Sell on March 26 2002 03:36 EST
- Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Guglielmo Lichtner on March 26 2002 10:49 EST
- Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Sanjeev Hegde on March 29 2002 10:02 EST
- Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Raymond Van Eperen on July 12 2002 00:38 EDT
- it's really a great product by karma ho on February 17 2004 09:14 EST
- Together ControlCenter 6.0 Released by Raymond Van Eperen on July 12 2002 00:38 EDT
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- Posted by: yu guisuo
- Posted on: March 26 2002 02:07 EST
- in response to Dragos Nenciu
Why can't I get the eval lice until now,can any body tell me where to get one??? -
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- Posted by: Christian Sell
- Posted on: March 26 2002 03:36 EST
- in response to yu guisuo
At least here in germany getting an eval license from Together is a rather unenjoyable exercise. After installing the software, you have to register online. When finished (with survey and all), instead of the message saying that the key is being sent via email, you are told that an account rep will contact you in 2-3 days. After 3 days, you get a mail from a rep, asking another bunch of questions (like "do you have the money handy"). Thats when I lost my appetite - dont like to spend 5000$ to support that kind of setup.
chris -
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- Posted by: Pieter Van Gorp
- Posted on: March 26 2002 04:41 EST
- in response to Christian Sell
I'm a student at the University of Antwerp, Belgium.
A few months ago, I tried out Together 5.5. I received an evaluation key after one business day. Great product by the way! -
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- Posted by: Sunil Maliyakkal
- Posted on: March 26 2002 05:19 EST
- in response to Christian Sell
If Together doesnt want to give you the evaluation key, asks whether you have the money ready etc etc..then try ArgoUML and help the opensource movement.
http://argouml.tigris.org/
"Poseidon for UML" is also a good product.
http://www.gentleware.com/products/index.php3 -
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- Posted by: Mirko Novakovic
- Posted on: March 26 2002 05:42 EST
- in response to Sunil Maliyakkal
I agree with you Sunil.
Why spend so much money if you can get such great tools for free. Take eclipse (with Sysdeo Tomcat plugin and Genuitec JBoss plugin you have great integration with J2EE), ArgoUml and some useful tools like JUnit, Ant and XDoclet and you have a powerful IDE for zero bucks!
Who needs all the GUI wizards...you click some buttons and no one knows what happens. Maybe fast for prototyping and easy to use for unexperienced developers, but is not worth the money for any experiences J2EE programmer.
Mirko
P.S.: If you want to spend some money check out IDEA IntelliJ IDE (www.intellij.com)
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- Posted by: John Davies
- Posted on: March 26 2002 06:24 EST
- in response to Christian Sell
I've just downloaded Together 6.0 and used my beta eval key which works fine. It has never taken me more than a few hours to get a key from TogetherSoft perhaps those of you having problems should question your local support rather than the product or the company. Together UK are right on the ball!
Excellent product, blows Rational's XDE away even with 5.5 and not even in the same ball-park as Rose. Poseidon is good but this is better.
Now a full IDE comparable and perhaps better than JBuilder and IDEA. I can't provide an honest view yet, I've just downloaded the full version but I've been working with the beta and that was good.
Full J2EE 1.3 modelling and deployment, GoF patterns, reverse engineering, ER models and code generation.
Heaven for Java programmers.
-John Davies- (not employed by or taking backhanders from Together, just a fan of good software). -
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- Posted by: Emil Kirschner
- Posted on: March 26 2002 10:49 EST
- in response to John Davies
together grows out of control towards a micro$oftish all in one tool. versions 4.x were great. What I need is a good modelling tool and 4.2 does it just fine. The only really usefull new feature in 5.x is the snap to grid functionality and the try/catch controlls in sequence diags. I'm doing server side java, I don't need c# or vb nor am I designing menus and swing dialogs. The product would be so much more usable if Peter would sell a modelling oriented base package and then sell additional plugins (every language you want, source ctrl integration, GUI design, etc) to whoever needs it. Does enyone else feel the same way?
still, 4.2 is the best modelling tool arround.
cheers,
Emil.
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- Posted by: Christian Sell
- Posted on: March 26 2002 11:12 EST
- in response to Emil Kirschner
MagicDraw is a really good modeling tool at a very, very affordable price (compared to TCC).
And, of course, in terms of IDE nothing comes close to IDEA -
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- Posted by: Lance Hankins
- Posted on: March 26 2002 13:28 EST
- in response to Christian Sell
I've said it before and I'll say it again. This is a great product but Togethersoft is obviously not concerned with appealing to the developer masses.
A single floating license for Together CC costs around $7,000 (USD). This immediately disqualifies the product from being considered by most small or mid-sized companies.
Their eval process is painful, and once you do get an eval, it only lasts for 15 days.
Togethersoft needs to come up with some compromise that alows them to better penetrate the modelling tool market. They have the best tool out there - its just priced out of reach for the masses.
I use Enterprise Architect from SparxSystems (see http://sparxsystems.com.au/. Its a good tool for a reasonable price ($150 for the full version).
Cheers,
Lance -
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- Posted by: John Davies
- Posted on: March 27 2002 05:58 EST
- in response to Emil Kirschner
I have to agree on the "micro$oftish" size of Together 5.5 and 6.0, it does take quite a bit of time to load up and with less than 512Meg of RAM it's a dog to run. You can disable most of the options from the load, that certainly makes it more efficient. I still use Emacs to edit Java although I'm trying to get used to IDEA which I love. I simply won't use Together as an IDE because it's too big, I want something that loads sub-second when I click on a Java file, Emacs does that, IDEA almost does, Together doesn't. Nothing beats Together though for modelling functionality.
-John- -
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- Posted by: Chris Kerns
- Posted on: March 27 2002 10:44 EST
- in response to Emil Kirschner
It's funny how many times I have seen people post that J2EE is behind .Net for truly integrated development tools, and now I'm seeing people slander Together for being to Microsoft-ish.
Personally, I'm tired of using one tool for modeling, one tool for development, one tool for deployment, etc, etc, etc.. Together puts everything in one spot. We are about to begin a eval where I work and I am hoping that Together comes out on top.
Of course, I also wich Together would come up with pricing model that would allow us to buy an affordable license for home use that is a trimmed down version. They seem to be kind of a Mickey Mouse company to deal with. However, it seems they are just targeting large enterprises with deep pockets at the expense of the "common programmer". As much as I hate to admit it, I'm sure they have chose the much more profitable business model, as long as they can get market share away from Rational.
Cheers,
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- Posted by: Nick Minutello
- Posted on: March 27 2002 20:21 EST
- in response to Chris Kerns
>>It's funny how many times I have seen people post that
>>J2EE is behind .Net for truly integrated development tools
In fact, you are right. (I have been guilty of this).
Some of the Microsoft developers I work with have been truly amazed at what tools like Together and IDEA do - they dont have a parallel on the M$ platform - they didnt even realise it was possible.
Once Together improve support for the .NET languages (patterns, metrics, sequence diagram <-> code synch) and tight integration with VS.NET, it will be a truly comprehensive modelling/development platform. Rational are not even in the game (XDE for J2EE is pants).
Their huge price is their biggest issue though...
(we could probably buy a site license of IntelliJ IDEA for the cost of one floating Together License... :-(
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- Posted by: yu guisuo
- Posted on: March 27 2002 01:13 EST
- in response to John Davies
I wait for the together soft to give me a licence,but I can't get ont until now,can you please give me one,my e-mail is yugss at 263 dot com,thanks.or any body get the licence will be please send me one. -
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- Posted by: John Davies
- Posted on: March 27 2002 05:53 EST
- in response to yu guisuo
Much that I'd love to I can't legally send you a license, this is not a software piracy site so I'm afraid you'll just have to wait for your license.
-John- -
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- Posted by: yu guisuo
- Posted on: March 27 2002 19:35 EST
- in response to John Davies
thanks,I am just want to evaluate that software to deside wheather wo need to purchase it. -
"There are no state selections for the country you selected"[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: C Scudds
- Posted on: March 28 2002 04:49 EST
- in response to John Davies
I'm sure it's a great product, but it's a shame their one of the many American websites whose registration insists that you define a "State" even when your country is non-US! Very annoying!!! -
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- Posted by: toy lee
- Posted on: March 28 2002 21:49 EST
- in response to John Davies
hi, johns
could you give me your evaluation key? I have applied for that for a few days and still get nothing from them.
my email is finback2015@sohu.com -
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- Posted by: Guglielmo Lichtner
- Posted on: March 26 2002 10:49 EST
- in response to Dragos Nenciu
I just downloaded it, I installed it, and I am still waiting for a license key. They might want to work on a an internal workflow system to make sure that the licenses reach the customers when they are ready to receive them.
Or not. After all, there's always Rational Rose. -
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- Posted by: Sanjeev Hegde
- Posted on: March 29 2002 10:02 EST
- in response to Dragos Nenciu
It is so hard to get an evaluation key for the Togethersoft
product. If this continues, it is only a matter of time that
some open source product will take over. Good luck to TG.
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- Posted by: Raymond Van Eperen
- Posted on: July 12 2002 00:38 EDT
- in response to Sanjeev Hegde
I'm not sure why everyone is having such a problem with eval keys. I got mine right away, and even got it an extension in order to complete the evaluation. Great product! -
it's really a great product[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: karma ho
- Posted on: February 17 2004 21:14 EST
- in response to Raymond Van Eperen
i think that if we have a good forum to share experience in tcc.that shold be nice.