An early access release of JSP 2.0 is available for developers to play with. The release is a custom version of TomCat 4.1 that implements version 2.3 of the Java Servlet API 2.3 and some new features in JSP 2.0, including the expression language, the <jsp:attribute> and <jsp:body> standard actions, and new SimpleTag Handlers and JSP Fragments.
Check out JSP 2.0(Sun JDC registration req'd).
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JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available (14 messages)
- Posted by: Floyd Marinescu
- Posted on: July 24 2002 16:08 EDT
Threaded Messages (14)
- JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by Shawn Bayern on July 24 2002 17:17 EDT
- JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by Anjan Mukherjee on July 26 2002 06:17 EDT
- JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by One Way on July 26 2002 06:31 EDT
- JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by Anjan Mukherjee on July 26 2002 07:51 EDT
- JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by anon anon on July 26 2002 07:44 EDT
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JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by Anjan Mukherjee on July 26 2002 08:10 EDT
- JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by anon anon on July 26 2002 08:24 EDT
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JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by Anjan Mukherjee on July 26 2002 08:10 EDT
- JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by Marina Prikaschikova on July 26 2002 08:56 EDT
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JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by Anjan Mukherjee on July 26 2002 09:50 EDT
- JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by Marina Prikaschikova on July 26 2002 10:54 EDT
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JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by Anjan Mukherjee on July 26 2002 09:50 EDT
- JSP vs. ASP.NET by Howard Lewis Ship on July 26 2002 11:42 EDT
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JSP vs. ASP.NET by Jason Smith on July 28 2002 02:42 EDT
- JSP vs. ASP.NET by Jamie Schiner on July 31 2002 12:31 EDT
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JSP vs. ASP.NET by Jason Smith on July 28 2002 02:42 EDT
- JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by One Way on July 26 2002 06:31 EDT
- JSP 2.0 Early Access Download Available by Kenny MacLeod on August 05 2002 08:55 EDT
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- Posted by: Shawn Bayern
- Posted on: July 24 2002 17:17 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
I encourage everyone to look at the JSP 2.0 draft and early-access RI and provide comments. JSP 2.0 really introduces an entirely new way of using JSP. The changes between JSP 1.1 and JSP 1.2 (and, similarly, between Servlet 2.3 and Servlet 2.4) primarily consolidate and fix the standards; JSP 2.0, by contrast, introduces structural changes and many new features.
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Shawn Bayern
(member of the JSP 2.0 expert group)
"JSTL in Action" http://www.jstlbook.com -
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- Posted by: Anjan Mukherjee
- Posted on: July 26 2002 06:17 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
ASP.NET's 'System.Web.UI' classes of the .NET framework enables server side generation of HTML form elements(cross browser compatible). I wonder when JSP/Java tools will have such a feature and a RAD tool to take advantage of the same?
Surely, this would be a great addition to developer productivity.
Is anybody aware of any JSR's along these lines, or any tools along these lines.
I wish not to comment on the Java Platform and it's maturity but I surely feel this would open up a new possibility.
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- Posted by: One Way
- Posted on: July 26 2002 06:31 EDT
- in response to Anjan Mukherjee
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- Posted by: Anjan Mukherjee
- Posted on: July 26 2002 07:51 EDT
- in response to One Way
Do you mean the taglib extensions to Ultradev at : http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/ultradev4-doc/intro.html.
It is so very clumbersome... you can hardly categorize it as a RAD framework it is surely not something close to what Visual Studio .net has to offer for ASP.NET.
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- Posted by: anon anon
- Posted on: July 26 2002 07:44 EDT
- in response to Anjan Mukherjee
check out JSR 127: Java Server Faces
If you program with ASP.NET, I suggest that you rather not comment on Java's Maturity... -
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- Posted by: Anjan Mukherjee
- Posted on: July 26 2002 08:10 EDT
- in response to anon anon
Well I did go thru http://www.jcp.org/jsr/detail/127.jsp
It was nice to know that Sun is working towards it.
Well as far as myself is concerned, I have developed, & designed J2EE based systems on live customer projects for quite some time now. I recently moved on to the .NET Framework due to certain customer requirements.
I hope my commnet on maturity of Java was not taken otherwise as there was no pun intended.
I was only hinting at what was good in .NET and what could be done to make Java better.
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- Posted by: anon anon
- Posted on: July 26 2002 08:24 EDT
- in response to Anjan Mukherjee
No worries
all java guys get pissed off whe here about M$ touting java as being old news, when you actually look at Java in the big picture and compare it to .Net, Java is so far ahead its frightening, especially in areas such as P2P and O/R mapping
ASP.Net essentially takes the best of JSP and all the frameworks that have spun-off around Servlets and JSP and consolidates it with a few of their own features.
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- Posted by: Marina Prikaschikova
- Posted on: July 26 2002 08:56 EDT
- in response to Anjan Mukherjee
Is anybody aware of any JSR's along these lines, or any
>tools along these lines.
See for example Coldtags suite on
www.servletsuite.com/jsp.htm
.NET similar tags are there. -
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- Posted by: Anjan Mukherjee
- Posted on: July 26 2002 09:50 EDT
- in response to Marina Prikaschikova
See for example Coldtags suite on
>>www.servletsuite.com/jsp.htm
>>.NET similar tags are there.
Good collection of taglibs i would say.
Can anybody tell me one thing - Is there any JSP upload tag lib that will work in WAS 3.5 with JSP 1.1 support.
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- Posted by: Marina Prikaschikova
- Posted on: July 26 2002 10:54 EDT
- in response to Anjan Mukherjee
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- Posted by: Howard Lewis Ship
- Posted on: July 26 2002 11:42 EDT
- in response to Anjan Mukherjee
I haven't researched .NET, but a number of Tapestry developers have commented that Tapestry's approach is similar and in many cases superior to the .NET approach.
Apparently .NET does a bit more on the client side, and Tapestry does a lot more on the server side.
Tapestry has a plugin for Eclipse called Spindle. Spindle speeds up development, but isn't specifically a RAD tool. Tapestry is an excellent candidate for RAD since most of an application's behavior is specified in XML.
Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://tapestry.sf.net
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- Posted by: Jason Smith
- Posted on: July 28 2002 14:42 EDT
- in response to Howard Lewis Ship
I was reading through JSR 127...
"2.11 Please describe the anticipated schedule for the development of this specification.
The final schedule will be determined by the expert group, however the target for the Community Draft specification is Fall 2001."
It's almost Fall 2002 now - hsa there been any work been done on it since this went up? -
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- Posted by: Jamie Schiner
- Posted on: July 31 2002 00:31 EDT
- in response to Jason Smith
Give it up MS troll .Net is dead . No one is using dot not. -
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- Posted by: Kenny MacLeod
- Posted on: August 05 2002 08:55 EDT
- in response to Floyd Marinescu
I've finally got around to reading the JSP 2.0 PRD spec, and I must say I'm damn impressed. Pretty much every one of my major gripes with JSP have been addressed.
- Expression language - a much nicer way of accessing nested beans
- Dynamic tag attributes - yay! proper mimicing of HTML elements at last
- Simple tags - finally. Was far too clunky before.
Looking good!