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  1. TheServerSide Now Publishes News via RSS Feed (24 messages)

    • Posted by: Dion Almaer
    • Posted on: October 22 2002 07:15 EDT
    Do you read news via RSS? Does your site access news via RSS? You can now access the latest news from TheServerSide with your RSS readers. Both 0.9 and 1.0 formats are supported.

    To access the RSS files, simply point your reader to:

    RSS 1.0: http://www.theserverside.com/rss/theserverside-1.0.rdf
    RSS 0.9: http://www.theserverside.com/rss/theserverside-0.9.rdf

    Are many of you using RSS to gather news?
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  2. TheServerSide Now Publishes News via RSS Feed[ Go to top ]

    RSS 0.9x is not RDF (RSS 1.0 is RDF though), so it the file extension .rdf doesn't make sense for it...
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    You are correct Michel. We just did that to make the URLs look the same that is all.
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    I try to use RSS as much as possible for my newsreading. Saves me a lot of time.

    As others have pointed out already RSS 0.9 isn't RDF, so the name is a bit misleading.

    Why isn't there a link on the front page to the feed? This news item with the URL's will soon be gone, so you'd need something more permanent.

    Also, while it's nice to have an RSS feed for the front page, why not do it properly and add feeds for all forums? I mean, since everything on TSS is just forums it should be trivial to add it everywhere.

    Next, if you could start categorizing the news items and have several RSS feeds depending on category that would make it even more useful.
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    Oh dear. I just noticed that the RSS feed doesn't include the actual text of the news items, just the title. So close, yet sooo far away.

    Why? (I can guess why, but please, it would be nice to just once be wrong) Please include the actual text as well.
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    I am confused. The RSS 1.0 version does contain the summary of the content as well as just the link. We put in the title, link, description, creator, date, and subject elements. Did you go to the 1.0 rdf file?
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    I am confused. The RSS 1.0 version does contain the summary

    >of the content as well as just the link. We put in the title,
    >link, description, creator, date, and subject elements. Did
    >you go to the 1.0 rdf file?

    Nope, the 0.9 one.
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    And the 1.0 feed doesn't work in Feedreader. But you're right, it does seem to include all the right data (thanks for that). Just guessing here, but maybe Feedreader doesn't like that CDATA thingy.

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    Ahh OK. I saw this message in the feedreader bug list:

    "Application does not display RSS v1.0 channels (like the one offered by the W3C) properly.BTW: Feedreader 1.62b succeeds ..."

    I will try to see what is going on.

    Thanks for the feedback.
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  10. TheServerSide Now Publishes News via RSS Feed[ Go to top ]

    Hi Rickard -

    Good idea on the links. We could add an RSS link to the different areas (starting with the front page).

    I also agree on the categorization.

    BTW, what news reader do you use? I have been trying a few (feedreader, bottomfeeder, AmphetaDesk) and they are all fine, but it would be great to hear anyone mention any that they use and like.
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    Good idea on the links. We could add an RSS link to the

    >different areas (starting with the front page).

    That would be nice, yes.

    > I also agree on the categorization.

    Should've been done years ago, but c'est la vie.

    >BTW, what news reader do you use? I have been trying a few
    >(feedreader, bottomfeeder, AmphetaDesk) and they are all fine,
    > but it would be great to hear anyone mention any that they
    >use and like.

    I currently use Feedreader, which is ok. I just upgrade to Trillian Pro, which has an ok-ish RSS plugin too.
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  12. TheServerSide Now Publishes News via RSS Feed[ Go to top ]

    <Good idea on the links. We could add an RSS link to the different areas (starting with the front page).
    >>

    Apparently there's a defacto standard way to place a LINK element in the HTML header that enables auto-discovery of RSS feeds. It is described here:

    http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/05/30.html#rss_autodiscovery

    The LINK element I put in the Artima.com home page looks like:

    <LINK rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="New at Artima RSS Feed" href="newatartima.rss">

    I also added a text link to a page that describes the Feed and gives the URL, as you guys are talking about:

    http://www.artima.com/rssfeeds.html

    This way the feed back be discovered by both people and software.
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  13. TheServerSide Now Publishes News via RSS Feed[ Go to top ]

    Thanks for the great info Bill.
    I will add in this link information.
    We decided to offer 0.9 also, as it seems that a lot of tools and sites don't support 1.0 yet. As times goes on, we can deprecate that support.
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  14. TheServerSide Now Publishes News via RSS Feed[ Go to top ]

    If you're using Mozilla or Netscape you can easily use the RSS feeds as a sidebar. Try for example the automatic conversion service:
    http://www.theonering.net/staff/corvar/cgi-bin/sidebar-inst.pl.

    For J2EE/EJB related news, you can also check out the RSS news/forum feeds of the EJB-SIG:
    http://www.ejbsig.de/index.jsx?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=2&mid=1.

    Does anybody know of any other good news feed for enterprise java?

    Martin.
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    That sidebar tool for RSS feeds with Mozilla is pretty cool!

    Shane
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  16. TheServerSide Now Publishes News via RSS Feed[ Go to top ]

    Awesome work, thanks guys.

    Nothing to add to what Rickard already said, except maybe that it would be nice to see the channels marked unread when a new comment is posted.

    As to your original question, yes, I use RSS whenever I can. It's come to a point now where I systematically look for the XML icon whenever I find a new interesting Web site and I whine when there is none.

    Using browsers is so nineties ;-)

    --
    Ced
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    I added a 1.0 RSS feed for Artima.com a week ago. I wasn't sure which version I should use, but I settled on 1.0. I saw some statistics somewhere that indicated that 1.0 is not used by a very great percentage of RSS feeds, but I didn't get the impression that 1.0 isn't supported in many RSS readers.

    Why did you decide to distribute your feed in both versions 1.0 and 0.9? I'm wondering if I should also do that.
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  18. TheServerSide Now Publishes News via RSS Feed/Artima[ Go to top ]

    Unfortunately your Artima news feeder can not be read, I think that you should add the 0.9 version.

    Regards
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  19. RSS Feed validation[ Go to top ]

    You might test your RSS feeds with the RSS validator: http://feeds.archive.org/validator/ by Mark Pilgrim and Sam Ruby.

    See also http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/2201.

    Validating TSS RSS 1.0 feed yields:

    Sorry
    This feed does not validate as RSS.

    line 67, column 32: dc:date must be an ISO-8601 date (10 occurrences) [help]

    <dc:date>2002-10-22 08:52:46</dc:date>
                                   ^


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    Thanks Martin.
    It now validates. I ran it through the userland validator, and a couple others and it didn't complain.
    Thanks for pointing this out!
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    I'm quite excited by this development. These days if I don't have a site in my RSS reader, it's rare that I remember to check it out at all.
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    I cannot load the theserverside-0.9.rdf file... Is there a problem with its generation ?

    1.0 loads fine, but my reader only supports .9x so far.

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    Cool B-)
    Now I can use NetNewsWireLite on Mac OS X.

    Its easy... Since there is no add u have to modify an existing feed. So I choose ActiveWin.com and Renamed it. Then did a Show Info updated the URL to the 1.0 rdf url and done!!
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  24. TheServerSide Now Publishes News via RSS Feed[ Go to top ]

    We now have feeds for all of the forums on the site.
    Wherever you see the [XML] image, it links to the feed.

    You can also check out the info on what feeds we have at:

    http://www.theserverside.com/rss

    Cheers,

    Dion
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  25. TheServerSide Now Publishes News via RSS Feed[ Go to top ]

    Dion:
    Just out of curiosity, are there any restrictions/contract/fees to use the rss feeds from Serverside ? what if we have a non-commercial portal and wanted to provide rss feeds from serverside on the site ?
    -Sameer
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