Microsoft will license the rights to Unix patents and source code from SCO Group. What Microsoft will do with these rights isn't clear, but one outcome of the move is to give SCO Group a better position in their billion dollar lawsuit IBM for allegedly transferring bits of Unix code to Linux.
Microsoft to license Unix code
SCO Group: Microsoft Will Pay Licenses.
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Microsoft to license Unix code (15 messages)
- Posted by: Sandeep Dath
- Posted on: May 19 2003 09:20 EDT
Threaded Messages (15)
- CLR -- The Long Term Picture by Gary Watson on May 19 2003 15:05 EDT
- Is this possible? by Jim Tyrrell on May 19 2003 15:21 EDT
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Is this possible? by Jim Tyrrell on May 19 2003 03:24 EDT
- It's about the money by Sandeep Dath on May 19 2003 03:59 EDT
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SCO vs IBM by Jagan Vasantharao on May 19 2003 03:59 EDT
- SCO vs IBM by Jim Tyrrell on May 19 2003 04:55 EDT
- SCO vs IBM by Erik Bengtson on May 19 2003 06:09 EDT
- SCO vs IBM by Brian Wang on May 20 2003 08:39 EDT
- This suit is a contradition by Kyle Burke on May 20 2003 11:06 EDT
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Is this possible? by Jim Tyrrell on May 19 2003 03:24 EDT
- Is this possible? by Jim Tyrrell on May 19 2003 15:21 EDT
- Microsoft is scared of Linux ... Big Time! by Musaddique Qazi on May 19 2003 16:58 EDT
- Microsoft is scared of Linux ... Big Time! by Henrique Steckelberg on May 19 2003 23:02 EDT
- In need of cash injection? by Jay Veggieman on May 19 2003 20:02 EDT
- Microsoft's spreading FUD over Linux by Igor Zavialov on May 20 2003 10:57 EDT
- Microsoft to license Unix code by Peter Birri on May 20 2003 14:28 EDT
- Microsoft to license Unix code by Joshua Y on May 22 2003 13:26 EDT
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CLR -- The Long Term Picture[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Gary Watson
- Posted on: May 19 2003 15:05 EDT
- in response to Sandeep Dath
Sometime ago...in a land far far away...
...I was writing for Wrox Press and managed to get in on a thread
of discussion on their blogs site regarding the long term
picture for Microsoft. It is MHO that Microsoft has/is
looking into *nix in order to properly port its IL (or CLR
as it is called today) to the *nix flavours.
What does this mean in the long term? Well, imaging if you
can run Office on Solaris or Linux ?!? Surely that has got
to be a tempting proposition for $$$ Microsoft $$$ ?
Think it's not going to happen? Consider now that Microsoft
has already got a version of Office for the Mac.
- Gary -
Is this possible?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Jim Tyrrell
- Posted on: May 19 2003 15:21 EDT
- in response to Gary Watson
Everyone,
Is their a lawyer in the house that can explain this in terms that I can understand? Is this a real threat or FUD? -
Is this possible?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Jim Tyrrell
- Posted on: May 19 2003 15:24 EDT
- in response to Jim Tyrrell
Of course I am asking about the 1 billion $ lawsuit? -
It's about the money[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Sandeep Dath
- Posted on: May 19 2003 15:59 EDT
- in response to Jim Tyrrell
Well, SCO's stock has doubled since it filed the suit, so I guess their shareholders are happy.
There were a number of rumors floating around that the entire licensing issue, including the $1B suit against IBM might have been secretly orchestrated by Microsoft. They have sufficient cash reserves to pull this off. Despite their initial derisive attitude towards Linux, Microsoft definitely sees Linux as a threat now.
Besides, SCO and Microsoft have been good friends for a while. Back in 1979, Microsoft's XENIX was based on Unix code licensed from AT&T. The following year, SCO became a distributor for Microsoft XENIX and licensed the name XENIX because they sold their trade name DYNIX to Sequent. In 1989, SCO ran short of cash, and Microsoft, along with other investors, put $25 million into SCO in exchange for 16% of the stock.
In the subsequent years, Microsoft gets increasingly rabid and edgy (not to mention edgy and rabid) about Linux's increasing dominance. Wonder if they still own SCO stock? Probably not. In any case, it wouldn't be surprising if they are "up to something".
Aspiring Conspiracy Theorist -
SCO vs IBM[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Jagan Vasantharao
- Posted on: May 19 2003 15:59 EDT
- in response to Jim Tyrrell
eat this ..
http://www.opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html -
SCO vs IBM[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Jim Tyrrell
- Posted on: May 19 2003 16:55 EDT
- in response to Jagan Vasantharao
Jagan,
Very intresting read, thank you. So does SCO have a leg to stand on? -
SCO vs IBM[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Erik Bengtson
- Posted on: May 19 2003 18:09 EDT
- in response to Jagan Vasantharao
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SCO vs IBM[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Brian Wang
- Posted on: May 20 2003 08:39 EDT
- in response to Jagan Vasantharao
eat this ..
> http://www.opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html
Very, very cool! If SCO goes ahead with the lawsuit, UC Berkeley should counter sue SCO and bring the Novell/AT&T/USL vs. UC Berkeley court case full circle. -
This suit is a contradition[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Kyle Burke
- Posted on: May 20 2003 11:06 EDT
- in response to Jagan Vasantharao
In my estimation, there are two primary reasons (and many secondary) for developing open source projects.
1. To promote other high-quality open source projects, through knowledge sharing.
2. To drive the cost of quality software down.
OSI quotes the complaint as follows:
"...the improper extraction, use, and dissemination of the proprietary and confidential UNIX Software Code and libraries".
What is 'improper extraction of Unix software, code and libraries'? Why would you ever release source if this was a concern?
These opportunistic sell-outs slit their own throats. I'm only astounded that Sun wasn't first, since M$ has had a hard-on for them forever.
Kyle -
Microsoft is scared of Linux ... Big Time![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Musaddique Qazi
- Posted on: May 19 2003 16:58 EDT
- in response to Sandeep Dath
Finally Microsoft has acknowledged what all of us have felt all along that it is very scared of Linux/Desktop UNIX.
I am sure Microsoft knows that it has already lost the war against Linux. Now it is looking for ways to counter it. I won't be surprised if they already have an Office/Visual Studio version for Linux.
Regards,
Musaddique Husain Qazi
http://www.the5ants.com
When was the last time MS did something original ??? .... -
Microsoft is scared of Linux ... Big Time![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Henrique Steckelberg
- Posted on: May 19 2003 23:02 EDT
- in response to Musaddique Qazi
Finally Microsoft has acknowledged what all of us have felt all along that it is very scared of Linux/Desktop UNIX.
Well, preety standard M$ behaviour: first ignore it, then bash it, then copy it, then cash on it, then eat it for breakfast... :) -
In need of cash injection?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Jay Veggieman
- Posted on: May 19 2003 20:02 EDT
- in response to Sandeep Dath
They revoked the IBM license (frome next month?), spending money on the law suit, behaving like idiots. Who will buy anything from them? Where is their cach flow coming from? Well if they need a cash injection the M$ money is very welcome. Some might even see it as a payment for a job well done ;) Do M$ need the license? Doubt it. -
Microsoft's spreading FUD over Linux[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Igor Zavialov
- Posted on: May 20 2003 10:57 EDT
- in response to Sandeep Dath
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Microsoft to license Unix code[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Peter Birri
- Posted on: May 20 2003 14:28 EDT
- in response to Sandeep Dath
How can MS proof that all code in their products is their own intellectual property? -
Microsoft to license Unix code[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Joshua Y
- Posted on: May 22 2003 13:26 EDT
- in response to Sandeep Dath
I dont think M$ would anything with their license nor produce
commercial products for Linux. Based on M$'s history of conquering,
their policies hostile against competitors are not something new.
FUD, the weakest link of open-sources has not been so effective
for Linux, which would be one of the great threats to their line of server
products. They finally brought the legality into this battle ground
to de-moralize Linux evangelists and plnat the seed of uncertainty
on the minds of decision makers in corporate Amercia, and the World
later. I wouldn't be so surprised if this vicous idea started from the
M$ heads and then executed by M$' corporate puppet. M$ did not forget
portraiting itself as a Corporate Moral by paying lots of money for this
license. Also by doing that, M$'s move makes this license look more
legally justified. I am not the big fan of M$ itself. But amused to see
what lies ahead. Good Luck for both.