Reviewing the growth over the past year since July 2002, Netcraft recently revealed that JSP continues to enjoy fast growth with a 94% increase in ip addresses running JSP based sites to over 44,000 ip addresses running some 105,000 active sites. Also interesting stats on operating systems that JSP sites use: 40% Linux, 26% Windows, and 17% Solaris.
Read JSP continues fast growth, on a surprisingly diverse set of operating systems.
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94% increase in JSP deployments since July 2002 (7 messages)
- Posted by: anon anon
- Posted on: August 04 2003 11:29 EDT
Threaded Messages (7)
- Good for Java - bad for SUN by Arne Vajh??j on August 05 2003 15:57 EDT
- Good for Java - bad for SUN by Cameron Purdy on August 05 2003 16:28 EDT
- Jsp Gr8 No comparision with Asp and Php by Raheel haider on August 06 2003 10:34 EDT
- Jsp Gr8 No comparision with Asp and Php by Cameron Purdy on August 06 2003 11:03 EDT
- how do they measure? by Michael McCutcheon on August 06 2003 00:35 EDT
- how do they measure? by anon anon on August 06 2003 03:45 EDT
- how do they measure? by Peter B on August 07 2003 17:37 EDT
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Good for Java - bad for SUN[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Arne Vajh??j
- Posted on: August 05 2003 15:57 EDT
- in response to anon anon
But no surprise.
Just as SUN in the late 80's and early 90's was the hot stuff
pushed be young people into the IT departments, then today the
young people push Linux and Windows.
BTW - it is worth noting that JSP is still far behind PHP
and ASP measured in sites.
A JSP site will at average though represent far more
application logic than an ASP or PHP site. -
Good for Java - bad for SUN[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Cameron Purdy
- Posted on: August 05 2003 16:28 EDT
- in response to Arne Vajh??j
Due to various other technologies (e.g. content management systems, portal servers or even just front servlets) the app may be built with ASP or JSP page assembly, yet show no outward sign of it (e.g. no URL that ends with .asp* or .jsp, and no indication in the HTML).
Peace,
Cameron Purdy
Tangosol, Inc.
Coherence: Easily share live data across a cluster! -
Jsp Gr8 No comparision with Asp and Php[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Raheel haider
- Posted on: August 06 2003 10:34 EDT
- in response to Arne Vajh??j
I wounder why people say php is fast,asp is fast don't the people see power behind the jsp i-e state of the art Java Technology i was thank full to Java that it provide me a power of Java behind the Jsp, i am free to use threads, free to call Ejbs from my regular jsp beans, is't that the power??????
i am not against Php or Asp i have work alot with Php and it is very fast and easy to use with its builtin functions and pre written modules but i miss jsp when i need to process a heavy data behind the seen, in jsp i am free to use threads from my beans and giving control back to browser last time i was designing a web base application using Php for one of my clients and the application need to process millions of records at specific alert,know what application gone crach after doing processing of records in the figure of thousend even i exceed the timeout of my webserver there are bad fatol errors which is not indeed in Jsp.
In short i need to give a one very simple message to friends that not a speed counts in every thing there are lot more issues like biggest and greates are scallablity that java provides.
regards...
Zeeshan -
Jsp Gr8 No comparision with Asp and Php[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Cameron Purdy
- Posted on: August 06 2003 11:03 EDT
- in response to Raheel haider
If you compare the JSP technology (by itself) with VS+ASP.net, I think you would come to a different conclusion. That is to say that "out of the box", Microsoft has a better development through deployment model. But JSP isn't a product (like VS+ASP.net), it's a technology standard, and there are hundreds of implementations, tools, servers, libraries, etc., and that is where the real power comes from. If you're looking for simple and quick, ASP.net isn't bad (although it is proprietary lock-in), but JSP is definitely a safer bet for big & complicated projects. As for PHP, it's even less expensive and easier for most things (e.g. even the $7/mo hosting providers provide PHP support), so on the simple and quick projects, it's a pretty good choice.
Peace,
Cameron Purdy
Tangosol, Inc.
Coherence: Easily share live data across a cluster! -
how do they measure?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Michael McCutcheon
- Posted on: August 06 2003 00:35 EDT
- in response to anon anon
If they are simply going by .asp or .jsp extensions, then that measurement is totally invalid. We are doing TONS of JSP's, but because we forward to them through a servlet, there is no .jsp extention. We usually use .html. Hopefully they took that into account.
Mike -
how do they measure?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: anon anon
- Posted on: August 06 2003 03:45 EDT
- in response to Michael McCutcheon
I wonder if they count all the sites with extension '.do' :-) -
how do they measure?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Peter B
- Posted on: August 07 2003 17:37 EDT
- in response to Michael McCutcheon
I'm also curious about how they measure the number of sites.
For example, do they just look for a mod_jk (et. al) tag being reported by Apache? Some web servers could just have the module installed and not used.
An example of this would be a number of hosting companies offering JSP 'out of the box' through their control panel software (like Ensim). Of these hosts, how many of their customers are actually running JSP? Probably not that many, since I still think that providing JSP hosting is a specialized niche that requires specific support skills.
- Peter
http://rimuhosting.com - VPS based JSP/JBoss Hosting