JBoss has announced the final release candidate of Nukes on JBoss, the result of a port of PHPs PostNuke.
Quoted from JBoss
"Nukes on JBoss is a full fledged Content Management System (CMS) with advanced user/group management, security rules and pluggable components. Components can be deployed at runtime while the application is running. It is all written in JBoss and most importantly nukes powers this website you are looking at it.
There are 2 sides to nukes:
The core CMS engine, with component management, security, user management developed by JBoss Group (Julien Viet).
Infinite number of modules composing portals that plugin to the engine, developed by JBoss Group and contributors."
Press Release:
JBoss Group Delivers Open Source Content Management with Nukes on JBoss Offering
Nukes on JBoss Project Home
I wonder if there are any plans to have Nukes run on J2EE standards, and hence run in any application server.
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JBoss Announces Nukes on JBoss final release candidate (24 messages)
- Posted by: Dion Almaer
- Posted on: January 20 2004 12:03 EST
Threaded Messages (24)
- Correction: by Srinivas Chidumalla on January 20 2004 12:48 EST
- Re: Correction by Ove Andersson on January 21 2004 05:56 EST
- Correction: by pravin pillai on January 21 2004 11:16 EST
- FLash Remoting by Faisal Abdelli on January 20 2004 13:19 EST
- Where did that come from ? by Ethan Allen on January 20 2004 15:04 EST
- Where did that come from ? by Steve Lewis on January 20 2004 03:56 EST
- openAMF by Faisal Abdelli on January 21 2004 10:37 EST
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Where did that come from ? by Sean Sullivan on January 21 2004 11:59 EST
- OpenAMF.org by Colin Sampaleanu on January 22 2004 10:11 EST
- Where did that come from ? by Ethan Allen on January 20 2004 15:04 EST
- JBoss Announces Nukes on JBoss final release candidate by Corby Page on January 20 2004 13:20 EST
- JSP and JSF by Adam Young on January 20 2004 14:15 EST
- JBoss Announces Nukes on JBoss final release candidate by Rob Misek on January 20 2004 14:43 EST
- 20 times faster ! by Faisal Abdelli on January 20 2004 14:04 EST
- PHP 20 times faster? by Christian Essl on January 20 2004 18:18 EST
- PHP 20 times faster? by Daniel Ritchey on January 20 2004 09:24 EST
- PHP 20 times faster? by Julien Viet on January 22 2004 02:36 EST
- 20 times faster ! by Tendayi on January 21 2004 07:00 EST
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IT IS FAST! by Faisal Abdelli on January 21 2004 10:33 EST
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IT IS FAST! by Julien Viet on January 22 2004 02:36 EST
- IT IS FAST! by Jiri Fabian on January 22 2004 05:44 EST
- talking about server load on php sites by SAM IAM on January 25 2004 06:29 EST
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IT IS FAST! by Julien Viet on January 22 2004 02:36 EST
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IT IS FAST! by Faisal Abdelli on January 21 2004 10:33 EST
- PHP 20 times faster? by Christian Essl on January 20 2004 18:18 EST
- JBoss Announces Nukes on JBoss final release candidate by Steve Lewis on January 20 2004 16:05 EST
- JBoss Announces Nukes on JBoss final release candidate by Drew McAuliffe on January 20 2004 21:26 EST
- JBoss Announces Nukes on JBoss final release candidate by Dorel Vaida on January 21 2004 03:36 EST
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Correction:[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Srinivas Chidumalla
- Posted on: January 20 2004 12:48 EST
- in response to Dion Almaer
It is all written in JBoss and most importantly nukes powers this website you are looking at it.
Correction:
The site which runs on Nukes is www.jboss.org and not TSS. -
Re: Correction[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Ove Andersson
- Posted on: January 21 2004 05:56 EST
- in response to Srinivas Chidumalla
The site which runs on Nukes is www.jboss.org and not TSS.
is TSS still running webwork? -
Correction:[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: pravin pillai
- Posted on: January 21 2004 11:16 EST
- in response to Srinivas Chidumalla
It is all written in JBoss and most importantly nukes powers this website you are looking at it.
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> Correction:
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> The site which runs on Nukes is www.jboss.org and not TSS.
C'mon....the statement is quoted from jboss.org!!! -
FLash Remoting[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Faisal Abdelli
- Posted on: January 20 2004 13:19 EST
- in response to Dion Almaer
Hi all,
Is Flash Remoting real world tech to be used in J2ee enterprize web apps as far as security is concerned ?
Faisal -
Where did that come from ?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Ethan Allen
- Posted on: January 20 2004 15:04 EST
- in response to Faisal Abdelli
How did the question about Flash Remoting pop up ?
It's an interest of mine ... right now I have the usual concerns about proprietary stuff, but it seems to be useful for simple data display. What's your view ? -
Where did that come from ?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Steve Lewis
- Posted on: January 20 2004 15:56 EST
- in response to Ethan Allen
To quote from the bottom of the Nukes page:
Remote Flash invocations, enabling interactions between Flash and Nukes components. You can easily design a module for both html and flash and have the power of Flash components. Help us develop the best community based website where we can all interact and IM and post through dynamic pages. -
openAMF[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Faisal Abdelli
- Posted on: January 21 2004 10:37 EST
- in response to Ethan Allen
check open source AMF at
openamf.org
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Where did that come from ?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Sean Sullivan
- Posted on: January 21 2004 11:59 EST
- in response to Ethan Allen
How did the question about Flash Remoting pop up ?
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> It's an interest of mine ... right now I have the usual
> concerns about proprietary stuff, but it seems to be
> useful for simple data display. What's your view ?
Open source Flash Remoting for Java: http://www.openamf.org/ -
OpenAMF.org[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Colin Sampaleanu
- Posted on: January 22 2004 10:11 EST
- in response to Sean Sullivan
How did the question about Flash Remoting pop up ?
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> > It's an interest of mine ... right now I have the usual
> > concerns about proprietary stuff, but it seems to be
> > useful for simple data display. What's your view ?
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> Open source Flash Remoting for Java: http://www.openamf.org/
I'm sorry, I'm actually a big fan of richer clients than HTML, but that site (openamf.org) is a horrific commercial _against_ using Flash.
I am running a browser at 1280x1024 resolution. The openamf.org site puts up a Flash based box which consumes only about a sixth of the screen. I can not resize the box, and I can not change the tiny text, which is basically unreadable.
I use Mozilla. Generally any HTML web site I go to fills most of the screen in decent fashion, and Mozilla can resize any fonts (which I have mapped to Ctrl-ScrollWheel) as needed, if they are too small. On the other hand, there are any number of Flash based sites out there which have plenty of eye candy, but are completely unusable...
Regards,
Colin -
JBoss Announces Nukes on JBoss final release candidate[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Corby Page
- Posted on: January 20 2004 13:20 EST
- in response to Dion Almaer
I wonder if there are any plans to have Nukes run on J2EE standards.
As far as I know, it runs on Servlets, JMX, and CMP. Which J2EE standards were you referring to? -
JSP and JSF[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Adam Young
- Posted on: January 20 2004 14:15 EST
- in response to Corby Page
Probably the previous comment was referring to the componenets for UI development, namely Java Server Pages and Java Server Faces.
Personally, I would love it if there was a standard where a JSF (Or Struts Tile, for that matter) was configurable as a JMX bean. -
JBoss Announces Nukes on JBoss final release candidate[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Rob Misek
- Posted on: January 20 2004 14:43 EST
- in response to Corby Page
Hi Corby,
Perhaps this is what led to the comment: "It is all written in JBoss".
Later,
Rob Misek
Tangosol Coherence: Cluster your Work. Work your Cluster.
Coherence Forums. -
20 times faster ![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Faisal Abdelli
- Posted on: January 20 2004 14:04 EST
- in response to Dion Almaer
PHP is far faster than J2ee, with/without ejb. If jboss site is running on jboss nuke, I certainly doubt it. jboss.org is slow ...very slow!
Faisal -
PHP 20 times faster?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Christian Essl
- Posted on: January 20 2004 18:18 EST
- in response to Faisal Abdelli
PHP is far faster than J2ee, with/without ejb. If jboss site is running on jboss nuke, I certainly doubt it. jboss.org is slow ...very slow!
> Faisal
While I spend 80 percent of my time with java I have to say that I admire the php-community because of not spending 80 percent on frameworks but on what 80 percent of internet-users need. Which is quite diversed and hard.
The more I have to congratulate JBoss to try to learn. Also the more I am surprised to here that php shold be faster.
Is it realy true that php is faster? -
PHP 20 times faster?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Daniel Ritchey
- Posted on: January 20 2004 21:24 EST
- in response to Christian Essl
I would assume the "Improved performance up to 20 times faster than on PHP/PostNukes" is due to the widespread use of caching, as far as I know, PHPNukes does not do any caching (please correct me if I'm wrong). -
PHP 20 times faster?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Julien Viet
- Posted on: January 22 2004 14:36 EST
- in response to Christian Essl
It's not a problem of language, it's a problem of design.
The postnuke architecture as it is cannot scale, the same statement applies for phpbb forums.
These applications are really great on the design stand point, which is why we adapt them, but they are not usable at the enterprise level.
Nukes is based on EJBs, as such you can configure your data layer and adapt it to your needs. -
20 times faster ![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Tendayi
- Posted on: January 21 2004 07:00 EST
- in response to Faisal Abdelli
Who said anything about J2EE being faster than PHP? It is possible to code poorly perfroming applications in any language! If JBoss Nukes is 20 times faster, then I suspect the judicious use of caches is the reason (JBoss has some pertty cool entity caching).
Sometimes you need to stop looking for the killer language or platform and look to yourself for better application performance through sound engineering... -
IT IS FAST![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Faisal Abdelli
- Posted on: January 21 2004 10:33 EST
- in response to Tendayi
I must admit that jbossnuke is impressively fast- faster than any ejb of non-ejb web appication I' ve ever seen. Faster than even Ibatis'! A very good job!
Now I can see why Jboss Team "love ejb" as Mark said.
Faisal -
IT IS FAST![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Julien Viet
- Posted on: January 22 2004 14:36 EST
- in response to Faisal Abdelli
We all love EJBs !!! -
IT IS FAST![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Jiri Fabian
- Posted on: January 22 2004 17:44 EST
- in response to Julien Viet
Julien, I appreciate your work on Nukes. I played with them half year ago. Using that O'Reilly article I was able to fairly quickly create my own customized module. I was impressed, how quickly was the site configured and ready.
However, I have started to have really terrible times with i18n, cause my site had to be in czech. After some time I found some class responsible for the setting of character encoding(it was hardcoded).Also the hardcoded html using tables for formating looked very ugly.
I understand, why you threw away all existing modules and started from scratch in this final.
Now I'm using snipsnap instead.
However, I'm going to return to Nukes once these modules are rewritten and the most importantly some documentation exists. Good luck to you! -
talking about server load on php sites[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: SAM IAM
- Posted on: January 25 2004 18:29 EST
- in response to Julien Viet
This is one site that I see a lot users online and contributing a lot more than any other php-nuke site. Note that php-nuke and post-nuke are different. They have tons of modules/blocks available that make it very easy to plug into the portal.
Check it out:
http://www.smirkingchimp.com
Check out the stats for the php-nuke site:
http://www.phpnuke.org -
JBoss Announces Nukes on JBoss final release candidate[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Steve Lewis
- Posted on: January 20 2004 16:05 EST
- in response to Dion Almaer
Congratulations.
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JBoss Announces Nukes on JBoss final release candidate[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Drew McAuliffe
- Posted on: January 20 2004 21:26 EST
- in response to Dion Almaer
"It's all written in JBoss"??
Good thing we're teaching JBoss in all the CS classes these days. -
JBoss Announces Nukes on JBoss final release candidate[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Dorel Vaida
- Posted on: January 21 2004 03:36 EST
- in response to Drew McAuliffe
indeed. it's a good language this JBOSS, I hear.
Also to reply to a prev post in this same note, java/j2ee is slow and PHP sux at scalability. C is primitive and C++ sux cause of multiple inheritance and lack of checked exceptions. We are just some perfect programmers and there ain't a single language to satisfy our perfect needs. What a twisted world we're livin' in...