The NetBeans open source project is proud to announce the release of NetBeans IDE 4.1 Beta. Included in this Beta release is a special Eclipse Project Import module available from the Welcome Screen of NetBeans IDE 4.1 Beta.
- Posted by: Robert Demmer
- Posted on: February 25 2005 12:10 EST
NetBeans IDE 4.1 Beta Download:
Full List of NetBeans 4.1 Documentation
The final product release is planned for May, 2005. For more
information on the NetBeans 4.1 visit the release planning page.
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- The fonts are too small by Sanjeev Dhiman on March 01 2005 03:06 EST
NB4.1 rocks !!!
UI is great, overwhelming set of new features including J2EE, webservices, Refactoring, and its FREE !!!
The web.xml support is really nice. Really, really nice.
After BEA and Sybase joined Eclipse, there almost no Big Vendor left that did not take side on IDE war.
And so far NetBeans does not have any supporter except Sun.
I absolutely loved netbeans 3.6, but I am annoyed at 4.0. I don't understand why so much new development went into supporting the whole "project" metaphore. What I liked so much about Netbeans is that you just use your source and your ant script.
Now, all the tools are built around the canned ant "project" files. I really, really want to use JFluid, but the bloody thing just does not work with your own Ant script. I fear the "freestyle" project structure is being relegated to the enforced "project" structure and canned Ant scripts. And the tools like JFluid won't work unless you use the whole "project" thing.
What was wrong with mounting jars and directories to get them on the classpath for code completion and syntax highlighting? It was soooo easy! Right click and mount.
You can hook up JFluid to external programs...I have it running against a seperate Tomcat. You just have to modify the catalina startup script, fire it up, then fire up netbeans and attach using the listed process ID. I was able to make the profiler work fine.
I think with the new ANT based project format, you can do everything outside of the IDE completely by just calling the ant file. (someone correct me if I am wrong)
I am really becomming a big fan of this IDE (4.0 and later) now that I have used it and the cool new tools (profiler, etc). I think more eclipse users should check out this fine IDE.
Ant support for NetBeans is very pretty :-) I really like the integration of using Ant for everything. IMO this is the best way how to organize your project. It's very scalable and you can run everything outside your IDE (cron job, automatic test, etc.)!
Check out EJOSA (google) for collection of Ant scripts for doing everything in enterprise Java application development.
You can hook up JFluid to external programs...I have it running against a seperate Tomcat. You just have to modify the catalina startup script, fire it up, then fire up netbeans and attach using the listed process ID. I was able to make the profiler work fine.I think with the new ANT based project format, you can do everything outside of the IDE completely by just calling the ant file. (someone correct me if I am wrong)I am really becomming a big fan of this IDE (4.0 and later) now that I have used it and the cool new tools (profiler, etc). I think more eclipse users should check out this fine IDE.Mike
Yeah, I tried it about a gazillion different ways. It simply doesn't work. I followed the instructions for using "your own" ant script. I attached to an external program, and the JFluid JVM promptly shit the bed. THe JVM itself died. Here's the file it dumped:
An unexpected exception has been detected in native code outside the VM.
Unexpected Signal : EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) occurred at PC=0x189147EB
Library=C:\Documents and Settings\ghendrey\.netbeans\4.0\modules\profiler-ea-libs\deployed\jdk142\windows\profilerinterface.dll
NOTE: We are unable to locate the function name symbol for the error
just occurred. Please refer to release documentation for possible
reason and solutions.
Current Java thread:
at com.sun.tools.profiler.server.system.Classes.doRedefineMethods(Native Method)
0x00400000 - 0x0040B000 C:\Documents and Settings\ghendrey\.netbeans\4.0\modules\profiler-ea-vm\bin\java.exe
0x77F80000 - 0x77FFB000 C:\WINNT\System32\ntdll.dll
0x77DB0000 - 0x77E0B000 C:\WINNT\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
0x77E80000 - 0x77F35000 C:\WINNT\system32\KERNEL32.DLL
0x77D40000 - 0x77DB0000 C:\WINNT\system32\RPCRT4.DLL
0x78000000 - 0x78046000 C:\WINNT\system32\MSVCRT.dll
0x08000000 - 0x08270000 C:\Documents and Settings\ghendrey\.netbeans\4.0\modules\profiler-ea-vm\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll
0x77E10000 - 0x77E74000 C:\WINNT\system32\USER32.dll
0x77F40000 - 0x77F7C000 C:\WINNT\system32\GDI32.DLL
0x77570000 - 0x775A0000 C:\WINNT\System32\WINMM.dll
0x10000000 - 0x10007000 C:\Documents and Settings\ghendrey\.netbeans\4.0\modules\profiler-ea-vm\jre\bin\hpi.dll
0x009F0000 - 0x009FE000 C:\Documents and Settings\ghendrey\.netbeans\4.0\modules\profiler-ea-vm\jre\bin\verify.dll
0x00A00000 - 0x00A19000 C:\Documents and Settings\ghendrey\.netbeans\4.0\modules\profiler-ea-vm\jre\bin\java.dll
0x00A20000 - 0x00A2D000 C:\Documents and Settings\ghendrey\.netbeans\4.0\modules\profiler-ea-vm\jre\bin\zip.dll
0x18910000 - 0x18920000 C:\Documents and Settings\ghendrey\.netbeans\4.0\modules\profiler-ea-libs\deployed\jdk142\windows\profilerinterface.dll
0x18AF0000 - 0x18AFF000 C:\Documents and Settings\ghendrey\.netbeans\4.0\modules\profiler-ea-vm\jre\bin\net.dll
0x75030000 - 0x75043000 C:\WINNT\System32\WS2_32.dll
0x75020000 - 0x75028000 C:\WINNT\System32\WS2HELP.DLL
0x74FD0000 - 0x74FEF000 C:\WINNT\system32\msafd.dll
0x75010000 - 0x75017000 C:\WINNT\System32\wshtcpip.dll
0x18B40000 - 0x18B48000 C:\Documents and Settings\ghendrey\.netbeans\4.0\modules\profiler-ea-vm\jre\bin\nio.dll
0x77920000 - 0x77943000 C:\WINNT\system32\imagehlp.dll
0x72A00000 - 0x72A2D000 C:\WINNT\system32\DBGHELP.dll
0x690A0000 - 0x690AB000 C:\WINNT\System32\PSAPI.DLL
Heap at VM Abort:
def new generation total 1088K, used 756K [0x10010000, 0x10130000, 0x104f0000)
eden space 1024K, 67% used [0x10010000, 0x100bd230, 0x10110000)
from space 64K, 99% used [0x10120000, 0x1012fff8, 0x10130000)
to space 64K, 0% used [0x10110000, 0x10110000, 0x10120000)
tenured generation total 13532K, used 9061K [0x104f0000, 0x11227000, 0x14010000)
the space 13532K, 66% used [0x104f0000, 0x10dc9758, 0x10dc9800, 0x11227000)
compacting perm gen total 8448K, used 8396K [0x14010000, 0x14850000, 0x18010000)
the space 8448K, 99% used [0x14010000, 0x14843040, 0x14843200, 0x14850000)
Local Time = Sat Feb 19 17:23:45 2005
Elapsed Time = 137
# The exception above was detected in native code outside the VM
# Java VM: JFluid Client VM 1.4.4 (based on Java HotSpot(TM) VM) (1.4.2_04-b05-release mixed mode)
- With the Sun App Server 8.1 which bundles all the latest JSF apis and implementation, out of the box.
- XML Code completion and validation for the faces config 1.0 and 1.1 dtds,
- libraries automatically in the web app project classpath when targeting Sun Application Server,
- Blueprints Solution Catalog integrated ( via Menu Help>BluePrints Solutions Catalog) that contains 9 "Web Tier with JSF" solutions -which are installable as projects in one click button from the Example tab-). Install a solution, run the project, study it, debug it, modify it, use is as a starting point for your JSF project.
- Wysiwyg JSF editing support 'a la Creator'? Not yet. You need to manually create/maintain the config files for now.
Developers are encouraged to explore the Help>BluePrints Solutions Catalog... and give feedback.
JSF support?Drag and drop support would be nice.
JSF support?Drag and drop support would be nice.
With "the world" standardizing on Eclipse, Netbeans can still remain relevent as a better "out of the box" environment. Really good JSF support would position it as a "Visual Basic" for Java web applications.
CONGRATULATIONS to the NetBeans team.
Was a bit reluctant initially, but thought of installing it mainly because of the "out-of-box" support for jsp and the JFluid profiler etc.
I did create a project without the build.xml and netbeans generated one for me. I also created a project with an existing build.xml, but faced some minor issues.
I did notice that the UI was quite responsive and probably better than Eclipse. Aesthetically eclipse is more pleasing with all those fancy widgets.
I always liked eclipse's refactoring, but seems that netbeans has done that too. Refactoring was easier and smooth with their "preview", just like eclipse.
It aslo features a "runtime" tab which provides built-in support to connect to databases and run SQL's. I never knew it existed. In eclipse, we need plugins to do all that stuff.
I didn't try the JFluid profiler so can't say anything about it for now.
There are somethings which did not work well enough, code formatting did not do what I expected. Also, the "Text Limit Line" feature of the editor did not work as expected. These may be minor and I expect a polished version in the final.
The faster UI, profiler, web services support, and out-of-box support for jsp might be enough for me to move over to NetBeans :-) Will look forward for JSF support.
I wish I could get the Profiler working with *any* NetBeans release or JDK. I worked once or twice with me, but never again. It either froze or popped up a dialog with "null" - just one word no reasons given.
The profiler looks excellent though - wish I could get it working.
I am very excited about NetBeans 4.1. Developing EJBs using this IDE is extraordinarily straight forward, especially having had to use WSAD 5.1. The Getting Started guides for NetBeans are a joy, and rank as some of the best technical articles in their brevity and precision.
Nonetheless, for anyone who is interested in using this IDE extensively for serious J2EE development, there need to be more documentation. Especially in the area of EJB and ANT development. I can't find in-depth reference/tutorial on things like modify ejb mappings, and run complex ANT script outside of netbeans. Please fill the void for such a wonderful and well-thought out product.
On a somewhat related note, I wish there was more readily available documentation regarding the NetBeans Platform. The only book out there is outdated.
Other than that, it's great!
A new NetBeans 4.1 book is being written and will be published in June. For now, you can preview some of its content under
New J2EE chapters will be visible soon.
All feedback is welcome...
Why are is the default font size always soooo small?
Never mind, u can change it anytimg, just add the following line in ide.cfg
Never mind, u can change it anytimg, just add the following line in ide.cfg-fontsize 11GiveMeJSanjeev DhimanThe default size is 11 anyway.
I have VS.NET open with a default font size of 10 (courier new) and the text is much larger than the those of NB at size 11. Setting the NB font size to 12 brings it closer to the VS.NET text size (even though the "size" values are different).
there are at least two font sizes: the font used in UI (menu, explorer, dialogs, etc.) and the font in the editor.
Do you have trouble with both? Or is it the font size in the editor you have trouble with?
there are at least two font sizes: the font used in UI (menu, explorer, dialogs, etc.) and the font in the editor.Do you have trouble with both? Or is it the font size in the editor you have trouble with?The menus are fine. It's the text in the Java/JSP/etc editors that is much smaller than other tools such as visual studio.
the default font size in the editor will be changed to 12pt before 4.1 goes final.
Thank your for your feedback
the default font size in the editor will be changed to 12pt before 4.1 goes final. Thank your for your feedback
I always find the NetBeans team's readiness to listen to user feedback highly impressive. You people are doing fine work.
Hey ! I also thought u were talking about Menu's font :)
So I wrote that answer. It's good that default font 12 has got approval in NB 4.1
U can change the font for editors from Tools-->options-->somewhere in IDE settings
Give Me J
what's your screen size and resolution? and OS?
what's your screen size and resolution? and OS?I am using Windows XP profession Service pack 2.
Screen size 17"
Screen res 1024*768