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  1. IBM Launches DB2 Community Version (11 messages)

    IBM has announced that it has released DB2 Express-C, a version of DB2 Universal Database Express Edition free of charge for development, test and deployment. IBM is also hosting a new forum that will be monitored by DB2 experts in an effort to provide free community based support for the product.

    Though this a free offering from IBM, Express-C is limited in it feature set. Listed restrictions include;
    • Maximum processors: 2
    • Maximum addressable memory: 4GB
    • Database Partitioning Feature N/A
    • Connection Concentrator N/A
    • DB2 Geodetic Extender N/A
    • Query Patroller N/A
    • Net Search Extender N/A
    According to IBM;
    Should you require a DB2 data server with more advanced features and 7x24 support from IBM, DB2 Express-C can be seamlessly upgraded to DB2 Express, Workgroup and Enterprise Server Edition(s) without modifying your database or your application.

    The word from IBM is that they are looking to nullify cost as a factor in the decision making process used to decide with DB to use. Another consideration was the developer mindshare that mysql has captured. But is it still possible for IBM to recapture mindshare from developers by offering Express-C as free software?
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  2. IBM Launches DB2 Community Version[ Go to top ]

    There are better faster, lightweight alternatives which
    are more performant and simpler to use. Why don't they
    just package apache derby and do what they did with
    gerongo and their app server?
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  3. IBM Launches DB2 Community Version[ Go to top ]

    There are better faster, lightweight alternatives which are more performant and simpler to use. Why don't theyjust package apache derby and do what they did with gerongo and their app server?
    Well, the obvious answer is that Derby is a port of Cloudscape, not DB2 - you want lightweight, you use Derby or Cloudscape, but if you want something that's enterprise-ready (as in, a large enterprise) then you use DB2.

    Of course, that's looking at only some of IBM's databases - I haven't mentioned IMS, or any other vendor's products.
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  4. IBM Launches DB2 Community Version[ Go to top ]

    Better -- arguably Oracle
    Faster -- arguably Oracle
    Lightweight -- MySQL
    More Performant -- arguably Oracle
    Simpler to use -- MySQL, SQL Server

    If you want lightweight & easy to use you have MySQL and SQL Server. If you want performance, functionality & enterprise features you have Oracle & DB2. This is excellent news.
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  5. IBM Launches DB2 Community Version[ Go to top ]

    If you want performance, functionality, enterprise features, lightweight and easy to use you have PostgreSQL :) But I like DB2 for historical reasons too.
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  6. IBM Launches DB2 Community Version[ Go to top ]

    If you want performance, functionality, enterprise features, lightweight and easy to use you have PostgreSQL :) But I like DB2 for historical reasons too.

    I would not be a fan of Postgres. If you ever intend to get out of 'lightweight' the effort is considerable.
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  7. Compatibility[ Go to top ]

    There are better faster, lightweight alternatives whichare more performant and simpler to use. Why don't theyjust package apache derby and do what they did with gerongo and their app server?

    Can you do an export from Derby and blindly import into DB2 ? I would assume not. Crippled enterprise software exists in the hope that people will get bigger budgets and bigger requirements and upgrade to the real thing.

    Guglielmo

    Enjoy the Fastest Known Reliable Multicast Protocol for in-Memory Replication

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  8. Response to Oracle XE?[ Go to top ]

    I would imagine that this move was caused by Oracle.

    They recently released free Oracle 10g version of the DB for fee called Oracle XE
    http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html

    Now lets see what Sybase would do.
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  9. Response to Oracle XE?[ Go to top ]

    Now lets see what Sybase would do.

    They have had a free version for Linux for quite a long time. Somehow they don't get much attention these days.
    http://www.sybase.com/linuxpromo
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  10. Sybase has no future[ Go to top ]

    Experience tells us that Sybase is quite uncommon these days, mostly used in legacy apps.

    There are some competitor around, which will make it unlikely to impossible that Sybase will gain momentum again as a database.

    - When a real DB is needed, these days it is anyway Oracle or DB2.
    - Sybase did not take their own future as DB-vendor too serious by selling their code non-exclusively to µ$oft, who have created µ§-SQLServer from it. Why should I trust for my future project in a company that does not even seriously trust itself?
    - mySQL and postgreSQL are around as strong competitors, providing the non-neglectable advantage of being open-source.

    So it is quite possible that postgreSQL or mySQL gain some weight in the future, even at the expense of Oracle, DB2 etc., but there is no evidence at all for the assumption that Sybase could pick up again. That's over for good.
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  11. Sybase has no future[ Go to top ]

    Experience tells us that Sybase is quite uncommon these days, mostly used in legacy apps.

    Sybase is still very large in financial services. About 15 years ago, they did a really good job getting all the big financial services firms to buy enterprise-wide licenses, so it doesn't cost them much extra to deploy 10, 100 or 10,000 servers running Sybase.

    Companies unfortunate enough to have missed that particular train end up spending tens of millions of dollars a year (and sometimes more) on database software.
    There are some competitor around, which will make it unlikely to impossible that Sybase will gain momentum again as a database.

    This is probably correct.

    Peace,

    Cameron Purdy
    Tangosol Coherence: Clustered Shared Memory for Java
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  12. Response to Oracle XE?[ Go to top ]

    Most of key players on DBMS market already did it:
    - Oracle, as you mentioned,
    - Sybase ASE Express Edition for Linux:
    http://www.sybase.com/linux_promo
    - SQL Server 2005 Express Edition:
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/sql/
    - IBM's Cloudscape:
    http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/cloudscape/

    Maybe it's the best time for such competition in J2EE commercial app srvs market?
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