Hi pony tail man, remember your fancy idea of per/employee pricing...the Java Enterprise System...is it still ALIVE
How predicatble. Here we go - sage advice from the real experts on running a multi-billion dollar, 40k employee, world-wide company. I'm sure CEOs everywhere are asking "why didn't I think of that".
Jokes aside, you ask some good questions so thanks for the opportunity to answer them.
Yes the Java ES pricing is very much alive - quite a while back we hit 1 million licenses - with some pretty big wins like GE, GM and T-Mobile.
We all know JES is a collection of individual products bought from many other ISV.
And exactly how is that any different from IBM, BEA, Oracle, Microsoft, RedHat, etc. ?
You're right about one thing - there is real value in the quality of integration of the parts - I don't think Java ES is perfect but we're making pretty major improvements with every release.
My experience tell me only Solaris, Directory Server, Web Server, and Messaging Server are "good" products. Ironically, they happen to be written in native language (majorly in C/C++, not in Java)
Thanks for the plug.
I'm pretty good at detecting irony; but I don't see any here. Not everything Sun does uses Java and nor should it (though we are pretty good at eating our own dogfood).
Finally, Jonathan, please not to rebranding your products too often. Netscape, iPlanet, Sun ONE, Sun Java System, Sun Enterprise System, and Solaris Enterprise System....is it a quiz in Certificate Exam ?
And there are many many link on sun.com showing me per CPU price and 90 days evaluation only. These information conflict what Sun said about free use of Sun products. Hope you guys do business "legally".I don't see Sun will be much better than before..
You're right - I checked - there are some old pages (2004Q4, 2005Q1) with the old terms and conditions - I think legally they might have to stay that way due to the already widely distributed license but I'll check.
Thanks for the dilligence.