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Cloud computing versus Grid computing (10 messages)
- Posted by: Frank Charles
- Posted on: March 06 2009 07:08 EST
Learn how you can use Infrastructure as a Service to get a full computer infrastructure using Amazon's Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2). This article helps you plan ahead for working with cloud by knowing how cloud computing compares to grid computing,, how you can resolve issues in cloud and grid computing, and what security issues exist with data recovery and managing private keys in a pay-on-demand environment.Threaded Messages (10)
- Usual overload.... by Nikita Ivanov on March 09 2009 03:49 EDT
- Re: Usual overload.... by Cameron Purdy on March 09 2009 14:27 EDT
- Re: Usual overload.... by William Louth on March 09 2009 15:16 EDT
- Cloud Computing!!! by Steven McArdle on March 09 2009 12:07 EDT
- Re: Cloud Computing!!! by William Louth on March 09 2009 15:01 EDT
- Re: Cloud Computing!!! by Nikita Ivanov on March 09 2009 08:02 EDT
- Re: Cloud Computing!!! by MIKE JASNOWSKI on March 10 2009 11:54 EDT
- Re: Cloud Computing!!! by William Louth on March 09 2009 15:01 EDT
- Re: Cloud computing versus Grid computing by Isaias Compres on March 09 2009 12:33 EDT
- Defining the definitions by Jelle Van Wieringen on May 15 2009 08:17 EDT
- Cloud computing versus Grid computing by Lina Cooper on October 14 2010 06:18 EDT
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Usual overload....[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Nikita Ivanov
- Posted on: March 09 2009 03:49 EDT
- in response to Frank Charles
Clouds are different way to deploy your grid applications. Nothing more - nothing less in my opinion. Best, Nikita Ivanov. GridGain - Open Cloud Platform -
Re: Usual overload....[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Cameron Purdy
- Posted on: March 09 2009 14:27 EDT
- in response to Nikita Ivanov
Clouds are different way to deploy your grid applications. Nothing more - nothing less in my opinion.
This is a marketing piece at best (paid for, promoting, and promoted by IBM), with incorrect and misleading technical information. Having worked with customers who actually do deploy to "the cloud", I note that this paper doesn't touch on any of the real problems associated with cloud deployments. Spinning up VMs that run your application is startlingly easy, but getting more VMs to actually provide more real capacity is very challenging .. outside of the silly demos that I've seen from certain product companies, anyhow .. ;-) Peace, Cameron Purdy Oracle Coherence: Data Grid for Java, .NET and C++ -
Re: Usual overload....[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: William Louth
- Posted on: March 09 2009 15:16 EDT
- in response to Nikita Ivanov
I think you meant to say that clouds offer a dynamic platform (at least in terms of available resource capacity) on which to deploy grid applications. Cloud computing platforms naturally (will) come with their own unique set of services common to different applications stacks including resource management and metering (chargeback) as well as addressing the critical scalability in grid computing - the actual management of hundreds of computing appliances. This is not scalable today in the grid computing world because someone (a human) still needs to be involved in the provisioning and deployment. Ideally the platform should create a significant amount of cloud around the underlying management of the physical/virtualized environment. In the end cloud computing must evolve to the stage were there is no distinct boundaries across processes and executions flows and between memory systems & storage systems. Virtualization is a means to the end and should not be the interface to the cloud itself. -
Cloud Computing!!![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Steven McArdle
- Posted on: March 09 2009 12:07 EDT
- in response to Frank Charles
I would like to prepare users for a future term we will use in the computer cluster/grid/cloud space. "Storm" computing, it's were you configure your network based on lots of clouds. The downside? well there will be no silver lining. -
Re: Cloud Computing!!![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: William Louth
- Posted on: March 09 2009 15:01 EDT
- in response to Steven McArdle
I have already laid claim to everything in the atmosphere. http://groups.google.com/group/cloud-computing/browse_frm/thread/81a30fd912e5abb2/2f22641c6f371c69?lnk=gst&q=atmosphere#2f22641c6f371c69I would like to lay claim to "atmosphere computing" ...delivering the gas to keep your applications running (and employees)."
William -
Re: Cloud Computing!!![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Nikita Ivanov
- Posted on: March 09 2009 20:02 EDT
- in response to William Louth
Ha-ha :) -
Re: Cloud Computing!!![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: MIKE JASNOWSKI
- Posted on: March 10 2009 11:54 EDT
- in response to William Louth
I have already laid claim to everything in the atmosphere.
I'll go one better (maybe).. I hereby coin the term: "Planetary Computing" - Built with Alien Technology on Uranus
http://groups.google.com/group/cloud-computing/browse_frm/thread/81a30fd912e5abb2/2f22641c6f371c69?lnk=gst&q=atmosphere#2f22641c6f371c69I would like to lay claim to "atmosphere computing" ...delivering the gas to keep your applications running (and employees)."
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Re: Cloud computing versus Grid computing[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Isaias Compres
- Posted on: March 09 2009 12:33 EDT
- in response to Frank Charles
New fancy name for an old idea... -
Defining the definitions[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Jelle Van Wieringen
- Posted on: May 15 2009 08:17 EDT
- in response to Frank Charles
I have seen many interpretations and definitions on Cloud computing. What I liked most is the new primer of Sun http://www.sun.com/offers/docs/cloud_computing_primer.pdf. The way I understand it, there is two things. "Cloud" and "Cloud computing". A "Could" offers almost no computing apart from the invoice that you will be charged with. "Cloud computing" is what you as a developer will have to implement. Happy reading. -
Cloud computing versus Grid computing[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Lina Cooper
- Posted on: October 14 2010 06:18 EDT
- in response to Frank Charles
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