Amazon recently announced an addition to their service portfolio - Elastic Beanstalk. This service is as if it is magically simple to deploy application to the cloud. This simplicity is revolutionary approach from Amazon toward cloud deployment and configuration management.
You can read more about this here - http://itsitspace.blogspot.com/2011/01/elastic-beanstalk-amazons-revolutionary.html
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Will Amazon's Elastic Beanstalk Solve the Java EE Deployment Problem (6 messages)
- Posted by: Tejas Bavishi
- Posted on: January 20 2011 03:01 EST
Threaded Messages (6)
- No. by Nikita Ivanov on January 20 2011 13:48 EST
- Caught Your Eye by Cameron McKenzie ( @potemcam ) on January 20 2011 14:24 EST
- GAE we. Beanstalk by Nikita Ivanov on January 20 2011 17:09 EST
- PaaS Killer - Iaas++ by William Louth on January 20 2011 18:45 EST
- In defense of GAE! by Mani Doraisamy on January 21 2011 03:38 EST
- SteamCannon by Neeme Praks on January 26 2011 04:22 EST
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No.[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Nikita Ivanov
- Posted on: January 20 2011 13:48 EST
- in response to Tejas Bavishi
Change Line of Code -> Click Run ->Test
vs.
Change Line of Code -> Run Build -> Wait... -> Open Browser -> Deploy with Beanstalk -> Wait... -> Test
Are you kidding me? Btw, the first line works exactly with GridGain - nothing to build, nothing to deploy.
Nikita Ivanov.
GridGain Systems.
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Caught Your Eye[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Cameron McKenzie ( @potemcam )
- Posted on: January 20 2011 14:24 EST
- in response to Nikita Ivanov
Nikita, I thought this might catch your eye.
My first instinct after reading this was to dowload some GridGain software and do a test myself. I think a comparison of ease of deployment of a war file to the cloud is in order.
Besides Amazon and GridGain, which other vendors should have their hat in that ring? I was thinking about trying to deploy the LifeRay portal war file to each environment and see just how easy it was.
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GAE we. Beanstalk[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Nikita Ivanov
- Posted on: January 20 2011 17:09 EST
- in response to Tejas Bavishi
I just want to clarify that as far as I see Beanstalk is way better than a limited GAE platform and retains all controls with developers. The mentioned "ease" of deployment is already available with the current crop of Web-based or IDE-based "build-wait-click-wait-restart-wait-test..." vendors and I don't think this was the only focus of this release. But at least for now, Amazon has the same technology as GAE - but done in a much better way, IMHO.
Nikita Ivanov.
GridGain Systems.
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PaaS Killer - Iaas++[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: William Louth
- Posted on: January 20 2011 18:45 EST
- in response to Nikita Ivanov
The big difference here is that control remains with the developer to a large extent which can't be said of Google GAE and VMware/vmForce/OpenPaas/SpringRailOnMeCloud were you have absolutely no way of setting JVM arguments such as adding application performance management capabilities (i.e. -javaaagents).
I was able to install OpenCore's metering engine (including its dynamic load time instrumentation agent) yesterday on an AMI and then use this image and reference the jars in the Beanstalk environment conf and Tomcat server startup arguments - I have not being able to do with any other PaaS solution to-date.
Is this possible with GridGain?
Beanstalk pretty much kills off those with hollow "Open" PaaS claims were its complete lock down and confinement to a cell.
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In defense of GAE![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Mani Doraisamy
- Posted on: January 21 2011 03:38 EST
- in response to Nikita Ivanov
"Beanstalk is way better than a limited GAE platform and retains all controls with developers."
These restrictions exist for a reason - a programming model that "scales" for unpredictable/explosive growth:
http://manidoraisamy.blogspot.com/2010/05/google-app-engine-unheard-voice-of.html
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SteamCannon[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Neeme Praks
- Posted on: January 26 2011 04:22 EST
- in response to Tejas Bavishi
The open-source SteamCannon project is more advanced in many areas, check out comparison here:
http://steamcannon.org/news/2011/01/19/steamcannon-vs-elastic-beanstalk/