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  1. Tuesday, June 28, Oracle Corporation is making JDeveloper 10 free for developers with the aims of simplifying SOA and removing barriers for J2EE developers to use what Oracle sees as core technologies: JSF, EJB 3.0, and BPEL.

    Currently, JDeveloper 10 is freely downloadable, but this is has legal limits in the nature of the projects that can be developed. (See the license for details.) Commercial licenses are available at a published $995 per seat. However, after the 28th of June, however, the price point will disappear and the download will be an unlimited version.

    Additionally, Oracle is proposing to spearhead a JavaServer Faces (JSF) tooling project within the Eclipse Foundation open-source community and will also join the Apache MyFaces project as a core contributor.

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  2. Interesting[ Go to top ]

    JDeveloper has great integration with OC4J. So if you are using OC4J or Oracle Application Server, this opens up interesting possibilities.

    Paired with OC4J, this would provide an alternative to Eclipse/Tomcat.

    Of course, I've never quite been able to figure out if the standalone OC4J container is free for "development purposes" - I know that you need an Oracle Application Server license for commercial use. Does anybody anything about standalone OC4J use in a development environment?

    Sandeep
  3. IFor Mike from Oracle[ Go to top ]

    Of course, I've never quite been able to figure out if the standalone OC4J container is free for "development purposes" - I know that you need an Oracle Application Server license for commercial use. Does anybody anything about standalone OC4J use in a development environment?Sandeep

    Mike, is standalone OC4J free for development purposes as well?
  4. IFor Mike from Oracle[ Go to top ]

    Mike, is standalone OC4J free for development purposes as well?

    Answering for Mike from another Mike: OC4J is as you know, embedded in JDeveloper, so within that context is useable according to the licensing of JDeveloper. But you are not licensed for OC4J Stand-alone, you are licensed to use JDeveloper.

    If you want to use OC4J independent of JDeveloper - i.e. Standalone OC4J - you have two options:

    1. For development, prototyping etc, you can download it from OTN subject to the OTN licensing terms ... which essentially is that you have a full use license for development purposes though if you weed through the legalese there are some restrictions.

    2. If you deploy it in a production environment, OC4J is a fully supported production product and can be licensed. The way you license it is you buy the Oracle Application Server Java Edition, which grants you a license to deploy OC4J in a production environment.

    The changes that you are reading here about JDeveloper do not in any way change the licensing of OC4J Stand-Alone.

    Hope this helps.

    Mike Lehmann
    (Product Management for OC4J)
  5. Currently, JDeveloper 10 is freely downloadable, but this is a limited trial version.

    A small correction - the version that you get from OTN has the full set of features, the only limitation currently are legal not technical.
  6. Whoops, you're exactly right - legally limited, not limited in functionality. My error, and the text has been fixed.
  7. Whoops, you're exactly right - legally limited, not limited in functionality. My error, and the text has been fixed.

    Actually no, it has not been fixed.
  8. Support for Java 5?[ Go to top ]

    Will the new JDeveloper version support Java 5.0?

    Regards,
    Turgay Zengin
  9. RE: Support for Java 5[ Go to top ]

    In the 10.1.3 preview release of JDeveloper which is on OTN you can switch the project compiler to use JDK 5.
    The production release will come with JDK 5 by default.
  10. ??[ Go to top ]

    "However, after the 28th of June, however, the price point will disappear and the download will be an unlimited version."

    Does this mean that JDeveloper will be free? As in I a can download it, install it on 10 machines, and use it to develop production applications. All for $0.

    If so then Great! I like Jdeveloper and as of 9.0.5.2 I think it is a quality IDE. I always find myself working with Oracle databases and like the fact that I can develope SQL, PL/SQL, Oracle Database Object, plus Java. All in one IDE. Great deal for people writing J2EE applications against an Oracle database.
  11. ??[ Go to top ]

    Does this mean that JDeveloper will be free? As in I a can download it, install it on 10 machines, and use it to develop production applications. All for $0.If so then Great! I like Jdeveloper and as of 9.0.5.2 I think it is a quality IDE.

    Yep. Totally free. Install it on ten machines, twenty machines... Go wild.

    And thanks for the compliment!

    Michael O'Neill
    Product Director, Oracle
  12. I went to the oracle site and tried to download the ide.
    When i entered my login and password, i was given a screen to update certain details about my account. And thrn was shown a download button. When i clicked on it, i got a page not found error with a search screen.

    I have never used this IDE but was interested in trying out the integrated UML features. I guess i should try again afer 28-June :-)
  13. Solution for download[ Go to top ]

    If you are having problems with the download using the normal links try this instead:
    http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/htdocs/devlic.html?http://otn.oracle.com/software/products/jdev/htdocs/soft1013j2ee.html
  14. cost of jdev[ Go to top ]

    Nope Jdeveloper is not avail for free. You either buy 10g application server.. which includes 1 or more licences of jdeveloper... standalone licences you can get for the stated 900+ dollars

    OC4J is FREE....
  15. cost of jdev[ Go to top ]

    Nope Jdeveloper is not avail for free. You either buy 10g application server.. which includes 1 or more licences of jdeveloper... standalone licences you can get for the stated 900+ dollarsOC4J is FREE....

    The pricing change takes place next week. We'll have the new license up timed roughly with Thomas Kurian's keynote at Java One.

    --Mike O
  16. Link[ Go to top ]

    Please post the link to Oracle's site that gives details on the Free release..

    Thanks,
  17. Link[ Go to top ]

    Please post the link to Oracle's site that gives details on the Free release..Thanks,

    here's where I first saw the news:

    http://infoworld.com/article/05/06/22/HNoraclejdeveloperfree_1.html
  18. Re: Link[ Go to top ]

    The text says that Oracle will anounce it on the 28th - so don't expect to see any links before that :-)
  19. Well, after Borland admitted that once most popular java IDE is now effectively DEAD because of Eclipse.
    After practically all major java players joined around Eclipse IDE.
    Giving JDeveloper for free and announcing full support of Eclipse and MyFaces, means exactly the same thing Borland did with its JBuilder.

    Oracle admits that starting 28th of June JDeveloper RIP

    Eclipse reigns above all.

    One Ring to rule em all ! he he :))
  20. One Ring to rule em all ! he he :))

    That is cute.

    I think JDeveloper has always been a giveaway for Oracle, meaning I don't think they ever made money off of it. I think JDevelopers purpose is to help expand their application server market, and to replace their existing GUI development tools.

    I guess the idea that they could switch over to using Eclipse as the core that they develop their plug-ins on top of makes sense. I'm sure they will always call it Jdeveloper anyway ;)
  21. Oracle admits that starting 28th of June JDeveloper RIP<BR>
    Eclipse reigns above all. One Ring to rule em all ! he he :))

    Our announcement doesn't mean that JDeveloper is dead. Quite the reverse. Developers expect tools and technologies to be free: removing JDeveloper’s price tag is a critical part of our Java and SOA strategy. It makes it easier for developers to acquire, adopt and work with our technologies.

    Our involvement with Eclipse and MyFaces is actually about advancing the use of JavaServer Faces. We want JSF to succeed, and the best way to guarantee that is to a) help ensure the success of the leading open source JSF implementation, and b) provide JSF tooling for Eclipse. It's really a continuation of our prior involvement with Eclipse for EJB 3.0 tooling.

    Final note: as someone suggested in an earlier post, JDeveloper is more than just a Java IDE. In addition to the PL/SQL development tools he talked about, JDeveloper includes UML modeling, code analysis, code optimization, BPEL process modeling, and visual editors for JSPs, HTML, Swing, JSF and Struts, plus portlet, web service and XML development. You should take a look.

    Michael O'Neill
    Product Director, Oracle
  22. In my opinion, having this IDE free now is quite significant. Like another person mentioned, I'd like to know whether the ADF stuff comes with it. Having a decent amount of exposure to 10g, I believe it is superior to any other free IDE currently out there. The ADF framework is very powerful, and building ADF apps using the IDE is a snap (and ADF apps don't require OC4J). If you don't like ADF, they have some really great tools for building Struts apps.

    Features like terrific UML support, a great WYSIWYG HTML editor, and more are really something to look forward to.

    Mike
  23. Like another person mentioned, I'd like to know whether the ADF stuff comes with it.

    Sorry for the delay in replying.

    We are changing the licensing for Oracle ADF as well: we will license ADF in the same manner as we license TopLink. In fact, we are creating a new bundle combining the TopLink and ADF runtimes.

    TopLink-ADF runtime is free-of-charge with all editions of Oracle Application Server. If you deploy to other J2EE application servers, you can also purchase a license to the combined TopLink-ADF bundle.

    ADF design-time will continue to be included with JDeveloper--you will be able to run ADF applications on the OC4J instance included with JDeveloper for development, testing and debugging.

    Mike O
    Oracle
  24. Like another person mentioned, I'd like to know whether the ADF stuff comes with it.
    Sorry for the delay in replying.We are changing the licensing for Oracle ADF as well: we will license ADF in the same manner as we license TopLink. In fact, we are creating a new bundle combining the TopLink and ADF runtimes. TopLink-ADF runtime is free-of-charge with all editions of Oracle Application Server. If you deploy to other J2EE application servers, you can also purchase a license to the combined TopLink-ADF bundle.ADF design-time will continue to be included with JDeveloper--you will be able to run ADF applications on the OC4J instance included with JDeveloper for development, testing and debugging. Mike OOracle

    That's too bad about ADF not being free. The framework and the IDE go hand in hand. Nevertheless, you don't need to use ADF, and for Struts developers, the IDE is a big help.

    Mike
  25. I think that the most "killing" feature of JDeveloper is its integration with OC4J.
    I'm working on a J2EE application with JDeveloper and all you have to do to send a release to the customer (who is using Oracle 9iAS) is clicking on "Deploy to EAR file". The result is burned on a CD and runs out of the box on the curstomer server.
    In my company, some other projects are working with Eclipse and Tomcat and it looks a little bit more tricky to get things working.
    I don't want to enter a discussion about "Which one is better : Eclipse or JDeveloper". What I'm sure of is this : if you or your customer are using Oracle iAS then JDeveloper is the best choice.
  26. "Well, after Borland admitted that once most popular java IDE is now effectively DEAD because of Eclipse"

    I don't think so; JBuilder’s market plight is due to the lack of mature development cultures. JBuilder provided great Swing and J2EE development support, but JBuilder just couldn't write the actual code for a lot of developers.

    Regarding Oracle, they have to do a lot more work for the Java community to erase the pain and agony on their history of very low quality software tools offerings.

    Actually, Oracle is a great example how innovation means nothing to the market.
  27. The Reviews Are In![ Go to top ]

    JBuilder’s market plight is due to the lack of mature development cultures. JBuilder provided great Swing and J2EE development support, but JBuilder just couldn't write the actual code for a lot of developers.

    "A brilliant reinvention! Four stars!"
    -- David Whipple, Revisionist History Magazine

    "George's latest is a Torre de Force! Meow!"
    -- Katherine Buchsbaum, Condescension Weekly
  28. Support for EJB 3.0[ Go to top ]

    Does JDev 10g already have the support for EJB 3.0?
  29. Support for EJB 3.0[ Go to top ]

    Hello,

    The current version of JDeveloper 10g does not have the support for EJB 3.0.

    But the production version of JDeveloper 10g (10.1.3) will support EJB 3.0 Development .. and Java 5.

    You can find some demonstrations (viewlets) on the EJB 3.0 OTN Page (bottom of the page).

    Regards
    Tugdual Grall
  30. I got the page not found also, but I went back to the OTN and finally got the download page, please try again.

    I can't give you the link because Oracle ask you to answer many questions before them give you the link.

    Something like these,

       I am not a citizen, national or resident of, and am not under the control of, the government of: Cuba, Iran, Sudan, Libya, North Korea, Syria, nor any other country to which the United States has prohibited export.
    I will not download or otherwise export or re-export the Programs, directly or indirectly, to the above mentioned countries nor to citizens, nationals or residents of those countries.
    I am not listed on the United States Department of Treasury lists of Specially Designated Nationals, Specially Designated Terrorists, and Specially Designated Narcotic Traffickers, nor am I listed on the United States Department of Commerce Table of Denial Orders.
    I will not download or otherwise export or re-export the Programs, directly or indirectly, to persons on the above mentioned lists.
    I will not use the Programs for, and will not allow the Programs to be used for, any purposes prohibited by United States law, including, without limitation, for the development, design, manufacture or production of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction.


    And here is the download page,

    Oracle JDeveloper 10g (10.1.3) - Developer Preview J2EE Edition Download
    Oracle JDeveloper 10g (10.1.3) - Developer Preview for Windows NT/2000/XP, Linux, and Macintosh.
    Complete Install
    includes Windows JDK 1.4.2

    jdevj2ee1013.zip (179 MB) - for Windows
    Base Install
    complete install without JDK1.4.2
    jdevj2eebase1013.zip (139 MB) - for Linux and Windows
    Macintosh Base Install
    complete install without JDK1.4.2
    jdevj2ee1013.dmg.gz (139 MB) - for Macintosh

    The complete version of Oracle JDeveloper 10g has everything you need in one simple package. However, for quicker download times, you can download the base install. The base install requires a JDK 1.4.2_04 on your machine.

    - See the documentation for install guide, release notes, and the latest information. See the JDeveloper Homepage for tutorials, demos, how-to's and more.
  31. I got the download[ Go to top ]

    Thanks for the reply.I will look into JDeveloper now :-)
  32. Wonderful!!![ Go to top ]

    Good news. another choice!
  33. ADF Faces[ Go to top ]

    Until now, the way to obtain a license for ADF Faces was buying JDeveloper.
    I'd like to know if since now ADF Faces will be free given that JDeveloper is free.
  34. Kudos to Oracle[ Go to top ]

    Kudos to Oracle for making JDeveloper free and showing commitment to the JSF!

    I would like to know if one can use Oracle ADF in commercial applications freely or should continue using MyFaces.
  35. Kudos to Oracle[ Go to top ]

    Thanks for those kind words!

    First I would like to clarify a few things in this thread, so that there are no misunderstandings related to Oracle ADF. Oracle ADF is a complete application development framework which includes components, such as Oracle ADF Data binding (JSR 227), Oracle ADF Faces, and more.

    The Oracle ADF Faces component library is part of this package and will be licensed accordingly (See Mike O's post). That said, we are already working with the MyFaces team, and will increase our involvement and contribution to the MyFaces project to make sure that JSF succeeds. As part of this effort our intentions are to investigate how, and what parts of Oracle ADF Faces we can contribute to the MyFaces project.

    - Jonas
    ADF Faces team
  36. JDevloper + Eclipse[ Go to top ]

    I have a number of questions. Can someone answer these for me?
    -When will an Eclipse based version of JDeveloper be released?
    -Will it provide visual support for creating non-ADF JSF apps?
    -What appservers will this work with (without paying Oracle for licencing)?
    -Will the Eclipse based version also be free?
    -What kind of Swing GUI design support will be in the Eclipse version. The Eclipse visual editor is *terrible*
  37. RE: JDevloper + Eclipse[ Go to top ]

    Jack - To answer your questions:
    1. There is no plan to base JDeveloper on Eclipse.
    2. We are currently providing visual JSF support in JDeveloper 10.1.3 preview that you can get from OTN and you don't need to use ADF for this. see http://otn.oracle.com/jsf
    3. JDeveloper creates standard J2EE applications that can be deployed on any application server. There are wizards inside JDeveloper to help you deploy with one click to Oracle, BEA, JBoss and Tomcat.
    4. See 1.
    5. JDeveloper offers a visual layout editor for swing today!
  38. Thanks[ Go to top ]

    Thanks for answering my questions, Shay.

    I seem to be a bit confused about the relationship between Oracle and Eclipse.

    Anyway developers always like free tools, thanks!
  39. Chinese character question[ Go to top ]

    I have just trailed jdeveloper10.1.3 in my Windows XP professional SP2(Simplefied Chinese edition). Everything is ok except Chinese characters in every dialog windows display as squares. What's the problem and how can I fix it? thanks
  40. Problems in Downloading[ Go to top ]

    When i click on the "Accept" button of License agreement page i can see a page with the message....

    Sorry!
    In order to download products from Oracle Technology Network, you must agree to the OTN license terms.
        
     Go Back and agree to the OTN license terms.
     Click here to return to the homepage.

    Please note: You may have received this error if you are using a browser other than Internet Explorer, Mozilla, or Netscape. We apologize for any inconvenience.

    However I am using Internet Explorer 6.0.2
    Can Anyone Help me?
  41. Betond just pressing the accept button, make sure to check all the check-boxes in the questions at the top of the page stating that you are not a terorist etc...