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  1. Eclipse 3.1 final has been released (45 messages)

    Eclipse 3.1, the popular IDE, has been released.

    There have been a lot of products waiting for Eclipse 3.1 to go final before progressing, so this is great news not only for the developers who use Eclipse directly, but for those who use tools built on top of Eclipse.
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  2. Nice[ Go to top ]

    It is nice that it is now final, even though I think there is not that much that changed. However I really like the ant debugger and the increased performance.

    However from what I last saw there is still no solid integration with subversion, which is quiet a pity.
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  3. It is changed[ Go to top ]

    Let's not forget, that this version has Java 5.0 support, it is quite a change from previous version. Eclipse has it own Java compiler which had to be updated. Too bad the download site is so overloaded I cannot even get to the front page :)
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  4. The site is too busy now...[ Go to top ]

    I can open the index page too, It shows how popular Eclipse is:)
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  5. Nice[ Go to top ]

    I last saw there is still no solid integration with subversion, which is quiet a pity.

    Did you already tried http://subclipse.tigris.org ?
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  6. Subeclipse[ Go to top ]

    Did you already tried http://subclipse.tigris.org ?

    +1. It is really amazing how subeclipse handles things using refactoring (that with CVS was a nightmare). I love subversion and subeclipse. Thanks to those guys!
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  7. Subclipse structure[ Go to top ]

    I am working with Eclipse and CVS now for quite a while and I would like to switch to Subversion (because of the refactoring features)

    I already tested Subclipse but I was not very satisfied about how to handle branches and tags with Subclipse. I could not find any documentation about this.

    How do you handle this? Do create the trunk, branches and tags folders in the repository root or inside the projects?
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  8. Eclipse 3.1 final has been released[ Go to top ]

    And I just put RC4 on my machine. Knew I should have waited a few hours. Well, at least it is TONS faster than putting VS.Net on my machine.
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  9. Eclipse 3.1 final has been released[ Go to top ]

    Just a note - it took me almost all day to put VS.Net (C# only) + MSDN on my machine yesterday. Still don't have the updates to base install.
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  10. Eclipse 3.1 final has been released[ Go to top ]

    Just a note - it took me almost all day to put VS.Net (C# only) + MSDN on my machine yesterday. Still don't have the updates to base install.
    I know a guy whose VS.NET install was so broken he couldn't uninstall it or reinstall it.
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  11. It seems the main eclipse site[ Go to top ]

    is hammered to the extrem and the mirrors have not caught up, guess it is time for the eclipse people to open a bittorrent tracker.
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  12. Eclipse Site + MyEclipseIDE[ Go to top ]

    is hammered to the extrem and the mirrors have not caught up, guess it is time for the eclipse people to open a bittorrent tracker.

    Yup, perfectly understandable given the scope of the release. Congrats Eclipse Team!!

    Now, I wonder when MyEclipseIDE will roll out their stable 3.1 release? :)
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  13. Apologies to all[ Go to top ]

    Eclipse is hammered to the extrem and the mirrors have not caught up, guess it is time for the eclipse people to open a bittorrent tracker.
    Yup, perfectly understandable given the scope of the release. Congrats Eclipse Team!!Now, I wonder when MyEclipseIDE will roll out their stable 3.1 release? :)

    I would like to apologize to everyone who've tried to download from www.eclipse.org and have had difficulties. Like most not-for-profits, we have limited resources. We've doubled the bandwidth from 50Mbps to 100Mbps and we're still having slow response times. We're looking into what it will take to double it again to 200Mpbs for at least the next couple of days.

    And please consider joining the Million Download Challenge.
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  14. Re: Apologies to all[ Go to top ]

    You should consider using bittorrent in a more official way then... I'm downloading Eclipse now at 40 KB/s with bittorrent using torrents provided at:

    http://play.aelitis.com/torrents/eclipse-SDK-3.1-win32.zip.torrent
    http://simoes.org/eclipse-SDK-I20050627-1435-linux-gtk.tar.gz.torrent

    Those links were provided on slashdot.
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  15. Re: Apologies to all[ Go to top ]

    You should consider using bittorrent in a more official way then... I'm downloading Eclipse now at 40 KB/s with bittorrent using torrents provided at:http://play.aelitis.com/torrents/eclipse-SDK-3.1-win32.zip.torrenthttp://simoes.org/eclipse-SDK-I20050627-1435-linux-gtk.tar.gz.torrentThose links were provided on slashdot.

    just downloading from bittorrent with a speed of 200 KB/s :))
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  16. Found a mirror[ Go to top ]

    http://mirror.reachable.ca/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.1-200506271435/
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  17. Bittorrent rocks ![ Go to top ]

    just downloading from bittorrent with a speed of 200 KB/s :))

    Downloaded it via bittorrent in less than 3 minutes !!!
    > 400 kbs !!!
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  18. blimey[ Go to top ]

    in a my connections great contest...

    1.2M/s :)))

    probably my fastest ever torrent!!

    I guess it is popular
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  19. Re: Apologies to all - Mirrors[ Go to top ]

    Here are at least two linke where you can get 3.1:

    http://eclipse.mirrors.tds.net/downloads/
    http://yoxos.com/yoxos-eclipse.html (windows, linux gtk only)

    As a distributor of Eclipse we are offering as well a pretty cool install manager - Eclipse RCP based and WebStart enabled -
    that you can use to extend your Eclipse SDK, e.g. with Web Tools. And the best is - it is free for all Eclipse.org projects.

    Jochen
    Yoxos eclipse distribution
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  20. Native JSP debugging?[ Go to top ]

    Does it exist in 3.1? Or do I have to start wading through a mass of low quality plugins?
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  21. Native JSP debugging?[ Go to top ]

    A little off topic, but I think if you need to debug JSP thats because your JSPs are doing more than it is suposse to do.
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  22. Taglibs[ Go to top ]

    Idea lets me step into taglibs. Can Eclipse do this?
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  23. Depends[ Go to top ]

    depends on what you want to step in, if you want to set a breakpoint on a taglib backend code, yes that is possible, I do it every day with self written tags.
    If you want to set a breakpoint in the jsp sources and step right into a tag, no that is out of the scope of eclipse itself, eclipse has no web centric tools in the default install, everythin you need for that have to be aquired from the plugin side of things.
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  24. Web Tools Platform[ Go to top ]

    The Web Tools Platform Project is the download you want.
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  25. WebTools Platform...[ Go to top ]

    ...is still in Milestone phase - no release yet.

    last i remember eclipse does not have a reasonable plug-in manager so i can uninstall the milestone release of webtools when a release comes out.

    i find the lask of a plugin-manager (with dependency management) one of the weaknesses of the platform.

    maybe someone can write a plugin for this?
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  26. WebTools Platform...[ Go to top ]

    ...is still in Milestone phase - no release yet.

    Release of Web Tools 0.7 is scheduled for end of July, but in terms of functionality almost everything should be in by now - the last milestone (M5) before the release is targeted for the end of this week (if the team will be able to access the eclipse cvs again by that time ...)
    ...is still in Milestone phase - no release yet.last i remember eclipse does not have a reasonable plug-in manager so i can uninstall the milestone release of webtools when a release comes out.i find the lask of a plugin-manager (with dependency management) one of the weaknesses of the platform.maybe someone can write a plugin for this?

    We did write a plugin - in fact a little bit than that as part of our eclipse distribution.

    A free community edition that includes web tools is available here: http://yoxos.com/eclipse/yoxos-eclipse.html

    The install manager can handle updates from milestone to milestone and from milestone to release.

    Jochen
    Yoxos Eclipse distribution
    www.yoxos.com
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  27. WebTools Platform...[ Go to top ]

    last i remember eclipse does not have a reasonable plug-in manager so i can uninstall the milestone release of webtools when a release comes out.i find the lask of a plugin-manager (with dependency management) one of the weaknesses of the platform.

    Then it must have been a while since you last used Eclipse. Currently whole Eclipse is based on a very solid and flexible plugin framework (OSGi) that handles both plugin lifecycles and dependencies. Older versions of plugins are disabled automatically when newer is found.

    http://www.eclipse.org/equinox/
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  28. WebTools Platform...[ Go to top ]

    This is not a problem of Eclipse being able to handle updates - it is a question of release numbering. The update manager can only handle updates for incremented versions. But Eclipse teams use only new numbers for releases, not for milestones. So the update manager has no chance - for him it is all the same version.
    Then it must have been a while since you last used Eclipse. Currently whole Eclipse is based on a very solid and flexible plugin framework (OSGi) that handles both plugin lifecycles and dependencies. Older versions of plugins are disabled automatically when newer is found.

    To quote John Wiegand from the plattform team:

    The platform does not rev version numbers for milestones; we only make new version numbers for the release. This is not a perfect solution, but it has sufficed so far. We have discussed alternate solutions, but have not come up with a happy better place yet. We continue to try, and will make another run at this early in 3.2 [no promises on results]

    There is a bug associated with this topic, bug #99393 on http://bugs.eclipse.org (hard to get to at the moment):

    In our eclipse distribution we workaround that issue ...

    Jochen
    Yoxos Eclipse distribution
    http://www.yoxos.com
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  29. Native JSP debugging?[ Go to top ]

    We're using MyEclipse without much problems. But I agree with the other poster: if you have logic embedded in the jsp, you should consider removing it and putting into a java class that sits behind your jsp. Model 2 architectures should be well known by now :-)
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  30. Native JSP debugging? -> Eclipse Web Tools support it[ Go to top ]

    If you have a JSR 45 compatible server (e.g. Tomcat >= 5.0) and the web tools project installed (http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/) then it works. Web Tools has not been officially released for 3.1 - this is expected for end of July.

    Jochen
    Does it exist in 3.1? Or do I have to start wading through a mass of low quality plugins?
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  31. Lomboz Objectweb[ Go to top ]

    Regarding the preceeging post you can develop and debug JSP and EJB directly into Eclipse using Lomboz available at the Objectweb forge. URL is:
    http://forge.objectweb.org/projects/lomboz/
    along with the features and docs:
    http://www.objectlearn.com/support/docs/introduction.jsp
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  32. found another mirror[ Go to top ]

    http://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.1-200506271435/
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  33. and some more[ Go to top ]

    http://eclipse.planetmirror.com/downloads/drops/R-3.1-200506271435/

    http://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.1-200506271435/

    http://www.t.ring.gr.jp/archives/misc/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.1-200506271435/
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  34. Eclipse 3.1 final has been released[ Go to top ]

    another great job by the Eclipse guys!! Thanks for making the life of us, java programmers, just a little bit easier. Highlights:

    - Java 5 full support
    - Ant debugger & refatcoring
    - Working sets
    - debugging locks and dead locks! (the winner)
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  35. Eclipse 3.1 final has been released[ Go to top ]

    Java 5 full support

    just a _year_ late, but that's ok given that IBM doesn't have yet a 1.5 jvm out yet afaik. it's splendid running these power 5 hardware machines with linux, and having to use a jdk thats ages old.

    just something to add to the cake of those amd64 machines.
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  36. Now we just need a built in profiler[ Go to top ]

    to make Eclipse the perfect IDE....
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  37. Ever tried Eclipse Test & Performance Tools Platform[ Go to top ]

    http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/index.html
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  38. Ever tried Eclipse Test & Performance Tools Platform[ Go to top ]

    i just tried it today and i was very suprised with it! However, im a bit confused with the releases, 3.0.2, 3.2, 3.3, 4.0....what's that all about?
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  39. Now we just need a built in profiler[ Go to top ]

    well go get JRockit if you are running on Intel which has a free profiler and on top of that leak detection tool.

    go here to DL JRockit itself
    http://www.bea.com/framework.jsp?CNT=index.htm&FP=/content/products/jrockit

    there are separate downloads for the tools but they can be had at http://dev2dev.bea.com/wljrockit/tools.html

    and then point Eclipse to your new VM.
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  40. TPTP[ Go to top ]

    Thanks Kasper. I have tried it after I read your post and I was quite impressed by it!
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  41. TPTP[ Go to top ]

    Does anybody know if TPTP can used without eclipse (I mean only the test execution part) through ant or a scheduled server job?
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  42. IntelliJ[ Go to top ]

    Hi,
     Today I noticed that the school provides free IntelliJ 4.5.4 . Since I'm a heavy eclipse user but also a great fan of IntelliJ, I'm wondering is there any reason for switching from Eclipse to IntelliJ ? (Why one should change from Eclipse to IntelliJ, If both are free)

    Cheers,
    AliS
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  43. Eclipse 3.1 final has been released[ Go to top ]

    It will be interesting to see how Eclipse does now that JDeveloper is free (with Visual JSF JSP support and everything else you could ever want including support for multiple appservers)
    http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/101/index.html
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  44. Eclipse 3.1 final has been released[ Go to top ]

    It will be interesting to see how Eclipse does now that JDeveloper is free

    JDeveloper is not free for commercial use.
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  45. Actually it is[ Go to top ]

    Oracle has changed the license only ADF their ORM mapper and the app server need deployment licenses now, Jdev however now is free for commercial useage since the 28th.
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  46. Eclipse 3.1 final has been released[ Go to top ]

    It will be interesting to see how Eclipse does now that JDeveloper is free
    JDeveloper is not free for commercial use.

    JDeveloper has been free for commerical use since the 28 June. You can easily deploy to JBoss, WebLogic and Websphere from it. Doesn't seem to support Sun's appserver though :(
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