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News: Oracle Acquires Tangosol, adds Parallel Transaction Processing Support

  1. At TSSJS 2007, Oracle announced an agreement to acquire data grid producer Tangosol, whose Coherence data cache has been used in many large financials. Coherence is likely to play a major role in Oracle's "Extreme Transaction Processing" initiative. Extreme Transaction Processing - XTP - refers to the capability to manage a single transaction across systems on the grid, in parallel, which not only makes processing faster, but also clears up some requirements for explicit transaction orchestration. Tangosol will play a crucial part in Oracle's XTP capabilities. The acquisition is expected to be finalized in April 2007; financial details were not announced. Until the purchase is complete, business will be conducted as usual on both Oracle's and Tangosol's parts. Congratulations to Tangosol and Oracle on their new business relationship! We at TSS look forward to seeing how Coherence blends in with Oracle's middleware strategy. Plus, now we get to call Cameron an Oracle drone. :)

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  2. Re: Oracle Aquires Tangosol[ Go to top ]

    My calendar must be off. It is not April 1.
  3. Re: Oracle Aquires Tangosol[ Go to top ]

    My calendar must be off. It is not April 1.
    US went to daylight saving early. Today is April 1st over there.
  4. Re: Oracle Aquires Tangosol[ Go to top ]

    Good for Cameron but alas, Oracle is not known to play well regarding 'opened' or 'well though and simple' solutions. They like to sell big, heavy and overcomplex products (vendor locked in purpose is in their mind). Coherence used to be very easy to integrate in many architectures; it was focused, light and usable without too much dependencies. I guess one now will have to use a huge oracle software stack to enjoy coherence. Too bad for us who like too keep systems and architecture as uncluttered as possible.
  5. Re: Oracle Aquires Tangosol[ Go to top ]

    TopLink was just burped out of the belly of the beast as open source. Who knows maybe Coherence will follow. Just need an opensource project to commoditize it. Virtual Cache to Hard Cash!
  6. Re: Oracle Aquires Tangosol[ Go to top ]

    TopLink was just burped out of the belly of the beast as open source. Who knows maybe Coherence will follow.
    TopLink was open-sourced because it was competing against the free, open-source Hibernate, along with a number of other products. Oracle probably noticed they couldn't make money out of TopLink license sales any more, so they open sourced it to seed the market for their higher-end products and services. Coherence on the other hand has no competition, either open-source or commercial. It brings in a healthy stream of revenue all on its own, which is why almost certainly why Oracle wanted it. I don't think there's any chance of it being open-sourced in the forseeable future.
  7. Re: Oracle Aquires Tangosol[ Go to top ]

    Good for Cameron but alas, Oracle is not known to play well regarding 'opened' or 'well though and simple' solutions....
    +1 My fear too that Coherence will become as developer unfriendly as ORACLE applications traditionally are
  8. It's still Coherence[ Go to top ]

    I guess one now will have to use a huge oracle software stack to enjoy coherence. Too bad for us who like too keep systems and architecture as uncluttered as possible.
    Coherence will remain a stand-alone product within Oracle. :-) Peace, Cameron Purdy Oracle Coherence: The software previously known as Tangosol Coherence ;-)
  9. Re: It's still Coherence[ Go to top ]

    Dammit Cameron I asked you two years ago if I could invest in your company but wouldn't let me! lol I knew this was going to happen.
  10. Re: It's still Coherence[ Go to top ]

    You mean Oracle Fusion Grid(TM) Suite ;) Artur
  11. Congratulations[ Go to top ]

    Congrats to Tangosol and Oracle - well done! ______ Terracotta // Open Source Clustering for Java www.terracotta.org
  12. Re: Oracle Acquires Tangosol[ Go to top ]

    This news was quite a surprise. Was just hobknobbing with Tangosol folk this past Tues. where they were doing a data grid presentation. Not even a smidgen of a hint that this was in the works. After the surprise my second reaction - that Cameron will now be too rich to socialize with us mere mortals anymore. :-) And third reaction is that Oracle is indeed the "Microsoft" of enterprise-ware. They now have the best-of-breed data grid.
  13. Re: Oracle Aquires Tangosol[ Go to top ]

    wow, this will really help coherence adoption, hopefully the licensing terms don't change too much.
  14. Re: Oracle Aquires Tangosol[ Go to top ]

    This was overdue. Congrats to Cameron, you deserve it! -- Andreas
  15. Re: Oracle Aquires Tangosol[ Go to top ]

    wow, this will really help coherence adoption,
    You do? I am not so sure. From what Cameron has been saying (what i have been reading) they were growing really well. It didn't seem like they needed help. I personally don't care that is now under the Oracle umbrella, but I bet there are a lot of those who think otherwise. Anyway, congrats to Cameron and the rest.
  16. congrats to Tangosol[ Go to top ]

    Congrats to cameron and all the tangosol guys. They deserve the reward for all of their hard work. I hope this means they will have even more resources to push Coherence into larger and bigger clusters :) peter
  17. Re: Oracle Aquires Tangosol[ Go to top ]

    Damn! I hope this means the party won't be canceled at J1 ;) Congrats to the Tangosol team!!! Rob Davies
  18. Re: Oracle Aquires Tangosol[ Go to top ]

    Congrats to Cameron at al .... PEACE! I hope you'll be able to continue to offer your legendary customer support and "no win, no fee" contracts after the takeover.
  19. Great poker face[ Go to top ]

    I'm glad for Tangosol and Oracle on the news. The Oracle sales team should be able to greatly expand on Tangosol's success. As for Cameron, I had no idea what a great poker face he has. Cameron gave his speech yesterday at the Server Side Java Symposium and didn't let on anything. I'm not sure if that is his skill or the power of the non-disclosure agreeement. I'm invited to a press conference this morning by Oracle on the announcement. I'll post something here if its newsworthy. -Frank Cohen http://www.pushtotest.com
  20. Congratulations[ Go to top ]

    Congratulations to Cameron and team. They've always been very professional and focused on delivering good technology, and I'm sure this will continue. It's a smart move for Oracle. Rod
  21. Couldn't happen to nicer guys[ Go to top ]

    This is an acquisition that warms the cockles when you hear about it. It must be a good time for acquisitions as in recent times the crew from tangosol, solarmetric, jboss, c24 have all done deals. Now the wine can go up a notch! :)
  22. Yay[ Go to top ]

    Congrats to Cameron and all the kids at tangosol, and damn that guy who hinted at this happening last night at 4:30am but refused to fess us (you know who you are). It's nice to see things working out for a bunch of good guys, hope you all find happiness at Oracle (failing that, lots of money). My only concern is how this might affect Cameron's entertainment budget.
  23. Re: Yay[ Go to top ]

    Congrats to Cameron and all the kids at tangosol, and damn that guy who hinted at this happening last night at 4:30am but refused to fess us (you know who you are). It's nice to see things working out for a bunch of good guys, hope you all find happiness at Oracle (failing that, lots of money). My only concern is how this might affect Cameron's entertainment budget.
    I'm gonna take a guess and say Cameron will be able to buy a bigger and better boat :) Maybe now coherence can move out of sommerville to a bigger office with lots of parking. for those who have tried to find the tangosol office, man it's darn near impossible if you don't know sommerville like the back of your hand. peter
  24. Congrats! I wonder if Oracle is in talks with Oracle to buy Interface21? "In cash we trust" $-) David
  25. Of course I mean "Oracle in talks with Rod".... Man I have one hell of a Vegas hangover.....
  26. A boost or a hindrance?[ Go to top ]

    While I am glad for the Tangosol guys, I have concerns about how this acquisition will affect future consideration of Tangosol as a stack component in client shops. My concern, of course, stems from the fact that I work in one of those shops! Will this mean: 1. Non-Oracle clients pass Coherence over, due to a perception of it being an Oracle suite product? OR 2. Clients more eagerly consider / integrate Coherence, since it now has the full power of Oracle's marketing brawn? Oh well. Market economics marches on... ;) Dave Joyce Software Developer Salem Health Solutions http://www.salem-health.com
  27. For how much?[ Go to top ]

    Does anyone know how many million$? I don't see that in the press report. Since Tangosol is not a public company we don't know it's value also. Any guess?
  28. Congratulations![ Go to top ]

    Congratulations, Cameron, Rob, Alex, Gene, and the rest of the Tangosol folks! I'm glad to hear that Coherence has found a home where it will be able to maintain an independent existence. -Patrick -- Patrick Linskey http://bea.com
  29. Does it mean flawless clustering support in iAS ;)? Congrats to Cameron et all. Artur
  30. I hope the quality and commitment of tangosol does not get tangled into red tape and politics at oracle. i m sure there is some complex package of products i will have to buy to get tangosol from oracle. its inevitable!! I hope spring doesnt go that route. I will be the end of good quality products created by quality professionals. Also brings up a point - what is BEA going to do given oracle is gulping up so many good products & also firing all cylinders on fusion ?
  31. I[t] will be the end of good quality products created by quality professionals.
    My experience disagrees, Shawn. TopLink (from The Object People by way of WebGain) and BPEL Server (from Collaxa), to pick just two examples, were both "good quality products" when they were acquired by Oracle in 2002 and 2004, respectively. And they have gotten substantially better over their release streams since, and are both still available as standalone products. And I've had the privilege of meeting and working with an incredible number of "quality professionals" in my two years at Oracle. I've been impressed with the breadth and depth of knowledge, and the professionalism and skill, of the developers I've worked with here.
    Also brings up a point - what is BEA going to do given oracle is gulping up so many good products & also firing all cylinders on fusion ?
    Indeed. Cameron, I look forward to working with you. Best Regards, Randy Stafford http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?RandyStafford
  32. Cameron, I look forward to working with you.
    Just to be absolutely clear, Randy: We do not have a Smalltalk version of Coherence planned ;-) And thank you all for your kind words of encouragement. This is an exciting opportunity for us, and we've got a lot of work ahead of us. We are determined to keep the "legendary customer support" and high product quality that we have worked so hard to achieve. Peace, Cameron Purdy [new sig coming soon]
  33. Just to be absolutely clear, Randy: We do not have a Smalltalk version of Coherence planned ;-)
    Dang. It's never too late ya know. Come to think of it, all six of us Smalltalk programmers in the world could have used a "Coherence/S" back in the 90s :) Congrats, and Welcome, Randy
  34. Hey Randy, While we haven't told Cam just yet, you can actually use Coherence with Smalltalk if you're happy with one of the many Smalltalk/Net options. It's pretty cool. You can manage Smalltalk (.NET) objects in a reliable Data Grid and then access them across many languages, including Java, C#, VB, Excel, Word etc. Build services in what ever language you like, without wrappers or embedding JVMs, do event processing etc etc etc. Clustering Smalltalk? Done! Perhaps I can go back to using one of my favourite languages! So increment the Smalltalk development community by 1 more for me. Cheers -- Brian [Tangosol/Oracle] PS: Once we have C/C++ natives (coming soon), you'll have even more options for integration :)
  35. Congrats guys[ Go to top ]

    Now I understand why I couldn't get Cam to down his "dollar shot" at Hogs and Heifers in Vegas last night. :-) Seriously welcome to the club! -John-
  36. Re: Congrats guys[ Go to top ]

    Now I understand why I couldn't get Cam to down his "dollar shot" at Hogs and Heifers in Vegas last night. :-)
    Hogs and Heifers and dollar-shots rock! The day after was not so rockin'
  37. Re: Congrats guys[ Go to top ]

    This is huge! Congrats to Cameron and all the guys at Coherence! Hope the drinks will continue, and the acquisition not to change the spirit of the Coherence people ;-). ./alex -- :Architect of InfoQ.com: .w( the_mindstorm )p. C4Media/InfoQ Co-Founder
  38. Re: Congrats guys[ Go to top ]

    Congratulations Cameron and everyone at Tangosol. Maybe you can get those talented bartenders and the dollar shots at your J1 party? ;)
  39. Re: Congrats guys[ Go to top ]

    Maybe you can get those talented bartenders and the dollar shots at your J1 party? ;)
    Wow. What a thought! Hey, maybe we can get them for our booth--dancing on a booth would definitely be a draw. Although we probably wouldn't be allowed to light spirits under their feet...
  40. Congratulations Cameron. I know that you have been working your ass of lately, and have managed to not only create a kick-ass product but also to build a successful business around it. Now is payback time... /Jonas
  41. Congratulations to Cameron and his team! -- Damodar Periwal Software Tree, Inc. Simplify Data Integration
  42. Congrats Cameron and the team. This acquisition is definitely a strong validation for the market we all been part of. Nati S. GigaSpaces
  43. Validation[ Go to top ]

    Nati
    This acquisition is definitely a strong validation for the market we all been part of.
    Exactly. This a key point to take away IMO. Here we have a major vendor recognizing the importance of an emerging category, and recognizing that things are changing in how people think about enterprise Java architecture. Rgds Rod
  44. Re: Validation[ Go to top ]

    Nati
    This acquisition is definitely a strong validation for the market we all been part of.

    Exactly. This a key point to take away IMO. Here we have a major vendor recognizing the importance of an emerging category, and recognizing that things are changing in how people think about enterprise Java architecture.

    Rgds
    Rod
    Having some ideas about how Oracle works, I won't be surprised if GigaSpaces and others are in for an unpleasant surprise in form of free open source Coherence. Regards, Slava Imeshev Parabuild - Continuous Integration and Unbreakable Nightly Builds
  45. Re: Validation[ Go to top ]

    Hi Slava -
    Having some ideas about how Oracle works, I won't be surprised if GigaSpaces and others are in for an unpleasant surprise in form of free open source Coherence.
    In a case such as this, open sourcing the software would be useful primarily to gain market share. Coherence already has the leading market share by a pretty good margin, and remains both profitable and growing as a product line. However, we are determined to make Coherence even more pervasive, and will look at lots of options to accomplish that. Peace, Cameron Purdy Tangosol Coherence: The Java Data Grid
  46. Re: Validation[ Go to top ]

    Cameron,
    Hi Slava -

    Having some ideas about how Oracle works, I won't be surprised if GigaSpaces and others are in for an unpleasant surprise in form of free open source Coherence.


    In a case such as this, open sourcing the software would be useful primarily to gain market share. Coherence already has the leading market share by a pretty good margin, and remains both profitable and growing as a product line.
    I think by Oracle measures something that produces some 5M of revenue just doesn't exist. Simply because in order to feed Oracle 5000 sales one would have to install a clustered cache in every microwave, fridge and cell phone :) At any rate, you guys did a great job. Taking a bootstrapped company to such level is huge. I am really happy for you. Regards, Slava Imeshev Parabuild - Continuous Integration and Unbreakable Nightly Builds
  47. Re: Validation[ Go to top ]

    I think by Oracle measures something that produces some 5M of revenue just doesn't exist.
    Heh .. no kidding! We have individual deals that big ;-) Peace, Cameron Purdy Tangosol Coherence: Data Grid
  48. This is huge!!! Congrats to Cameron and the team. I hope Oracle doesn't turn Coherence into a Oracle-Mostly product. In any case, this is great news. Oracle RAC + Coherence.. woow. Great combination... -talip
  49. Congratulations to Cam and team! Good to hear that you will be a separate business unit in Oracle, just don't let Coherance become bloatware. I just hope this doesn't change your nocturnal beverage habits ;) Cheers, Ross
  50. This news is stacked in between two symposium news which both have posts less than 5.. see ? excitement is everything ! Congrats to Tangosol, this really is big! Hope they can preserve the qualified product line they have been doing.. -Mehmet Bilgi
  51. Congratulations to MySQL[ Go to top ]

    Congratulations to MySQL who didn't sell themself to Oracle! http://news.com.com/Oracle+tried+to+buy+open-source+MySQL/2100-7344_3-6040197.html
  52. Congrats!![ Go to top ]

    Yay, didn't see that one coming. BIG congrats to Cam and team!!
  53. Wow! Congrats all! geir
  54. So, I'll just join the chorus here and say "Congrats, Cameron and company!" And Cameron, remember, you are required to have the J1 party this year, since I missed out last year :-). Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
  55. We are definitely planning the J1 Tangosol party! I'd like to think that Tangosol is business as usual, but with 5,000 extra sales people and a slightly different shade of red. :-) Peace, Cameron Purdy Tangosol Coherence: The Java Data Grid
  56. We are definitely planning the J1 Tangosol party!

    I'd like to think that Tangosol is business as usual, but with 5,000 extra sales people and a slightly different shade of red. :-)

    Peace,

    Cameron Purdy
    Tangosol Coherence: The Java Data Grid
    Thanks for the confirmation Cameron of business as usual. I really hope the slightly different red shade is not the "red tape". (I have had really bad experience with oracle sales guys.) Looking forward to your new signature :)
  57. Congratulations[ Go to top ]

    Congratulations to the Tangosol team. I hope you retain your techie culture and developer-friendly attitude, which, in my opinion, is the second most attractive feature of Tangosol, the first being the product, of course. Also, I am not sure which way the product price will go, higher or lower. All in all, a very strong validation of Tangosol's vision. - Ghanshyam
  58. CONGRATS[ Go to top ]

    I can't think of anyone more deserving, Congrats Cameron and team!!!!
  59. Re: Congratulations[ Go to top ]

    Cameron, Congratulations to you and the Tangosol team! Good job! Regards, Slava Imeshev Parabuild - Continuous Integration and Unbreakable Nightly Builds
  60. Sad news...[ Go to top ]

    Another good thing Oracle will mess up. I'll have to put it up next to TopLink and Orion server-> OC4J. Too bad... Maybe they'll use it to help improve oc4j clustering, who knows...
  61. future is bright[ Go to top ]

    Another good thing Oracle will mess up.
    We've invested far too much of ourselves in this to let it get "messed up". We're keeping our team, and keeping it intact, and are determined to continue to provide the quality of service that Tangosol is known for. If the oc4j team wants to use it for clustering oc4j, they will now have that option. Same goes for TopLink. Our goal is to continue to make Coherence the most compelling product in its space, and we've got a lot in the pipeline. Peace, Cameron Purdy Tangosol Coherence: The Java Data Grid
  62. Re: future is bright[ Go to top ]

    The problem, Cameron, will come when you think the product should go one way and Oracle another. I can't say I'm ecstatic about this news although you and your team thoroughly deserve your rewards. Simon
  63. Re: future is bright[ Go to top ]

    Still want to know what the new signature is ... Oracle Incoherence : Bloated Enterprise HashMap Peace :-)
  64. you can do better[ Go to top ]

    Oracle Incoherence : Bloated Enterprise HashMap
    You forgot to use the word "Unbreakable", a version number and the letter "G", e.g.
    Orasol Coherence 4G: Unbreakable Enterprise HashMap!
    ;-) Peace, Cameron Purdy Tangosol Coherence: The Java Data Grid