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Atom Publishing Protocol published!

Posted by: Joseph Ottinger on October 25, 2007 DIGG
The Atom Publishing Protocol has been published! It's RFC 5023, and represents a standard mechanism for publishing and editing web resources. It's a partner to the syndication format, which is RFC 4287.

This may sound like a fairly esoteric topic, but it's a big step forward in standardizing publishing mechanisms: Tim Bray said on his site, "Here's the Atom dream: A 'Publish' button on everything. On every word processor and email reader and web browser and cellphone and PDA and spreadsheet and photo-editor and digicam and outliner and sales-force tracker. Really, everywhere. If it doesn’t have a 'Publish' button, it's broken."

No word on whether AtomPub was published with the protocol itself.

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·  Atom Publishing Protocol published! by Joseph Ottinger on Thu Oct 25 09:40:49 EDT 2007
  ·  Atom as the basis for publish/subscribe events model by Andrés González on Fri Oct 26 05:02:11 EDT 2007
    ·  Re: Atom as the basis for publish/subscribe events model by Kit Davies on Fri Oct 26 07:48:49 EDT 2007
    ·  Re: Atom as the basis for publish/subscribe events model by Mikhail Franco on Tue Oct 30 03:42:18 EDT 2007
  ·  Re: Atom Publishing Protocol published! by David Sims on Fri Oct 26 11:18:35 EDT 2007
  ·  Interesting by Kol Tam on Mon Oct 12 02:19:33 EDT 2009
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Atom as the basis for publish/subscribe events model

Posted by: Andrés González on October 26, 2007 in response to Message #241684
Interesting news.

This may be a crazy idea, but i'm searching for publish/subscribe event model to be used in a B2B network. In this network there are many B's (some use java, some .net, some, ...) so i need a interoperable, multiplatform, "standard" solution.

My options are:

1) JMS -> requires bridges for impedance mismatch between different providers and not sure about how possible it is to play (publish/subscribe) with JMS in a .net environment

2) WS-Eventing / WS-Notification: inmature, overlapping and competing "standards". Not sure if the will converge. Not sure about the robustness of WS-Notification implementations (WAS, ServiceMix)

3) Atom!

Yes. In my environment i think there are no "real-time" event delivering requirements, so i think something as trivial as Atom (pull model, not push) could work. Atom feeds can be created/consumed in every platform, and Atom is an IETF clearly defined standard.


The problem: well, it is not designed for event processing. For example, it is not trivial/natural to know if an published event has been consumed and by whom...

I don't think security would be a problem with atom. Security issues can be covered at the http level or at the xml level (XML Encryption, XML Signature).

Anyone is using Atom for "middleware" purposes?

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Re: Atom as the basis for publish/subscribe events model

Posted by: Kit Davies on October 26, 2007 in response to Message #241758
LLUP/BLIP is intended to do what you're after I think, though I am not sure how far down the road this project is.
Kit

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Re: Atom Publishing Protocol published!

Posted by: David Sims on October 26, 2007 in response to Message #241684
With proper respect to Tim Bray, I disagree with his idea that the main reason we don't have more blog postings in the blogosphere is "Because it’s too hard". Sure, maybe that's a partial reason, but I'd say the most important reason is that people want to polish what they say publicly to a mass audience, like an article in a newspaper. And because they don't have the time to do that, they get writer's block, or they're shy, fewer blog postings occur.

Where I work, we have internal blogs where the audience is just us, so people are more free-wheeling than in our company's public blogs. More people post. They post more frequently. They post on a wider variety of topics. And there are plenty of comments.

Cheers,
David

Flux - Java Job Scheduler. File Transfer. Workflow. BPM.

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Re: Atom as the basis for publish/subscribe events model

Posted by: Mikhail Franco on October 30, 2007 in response to Message #241758
You also have the choice of XMPP (Jabber) and AMQP, which are both language- and platform-independent protocol specifications (unlike JMS). Just to give two examples written in Erlang: EAI using XMPP at Process One (home of ejabberd); and LShift/CohesiveFT RabbitMQ for AMQP. If you feel happier in other languages, check out Apache QPid.

Mik

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Interesting

Posted by: Kol Tam on October 12, 2009 in response to Message #241684
Interesting. did not know that the atom can be used for these purposes. My pharmacy site

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