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            <description><![CDATA[Lets see ... first Sun sued Microsoft for including Java with windows... now they are suing because they don't .... very interesting  (yes I realize that this is a bit overly simplified but it does capture the gist of it)....]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[dump the IE use Opera instead...its free, doesnt flood the taskbar with browser windows, flexible (offers download manager-like functionalities, etc) and its fast. Its also quite compatible with Java Plug-ins. After you are comfortable with it you might...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:29:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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            <description><![CDATA[I do agree with Sun. I am currently using Win XP. I face many problems when I open a browser containing Applets e.g <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.java.sun.com" target="_newWindow">http://www.java.sun.com</a> or <a...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[well, at least we have agreed on some points :)
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<br>The thing about the 'REAL Programmers' is mostly correct but we must give some credit to the hype that has helped propel java to the mainstream...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:33:11 -0500</pubDate>

        

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            <description><![CDATA[Oh I agree wholeheartedly that java needs to improve. I am one of those that think Sun should head a supervisory comittee of cross platform and product experts in deciding the future of java. Rather like the OMG. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:19:14 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Robert Simmons</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[How can u show ethics if you go on attacking someone over some constructive opinions? I can see u got such anti-MS sentiment such as i but lets just evaluate things as objectively as possible.k?...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:46:14 -0500</pubDate>

        

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            <description><![CDATA[Couldn't agree more, Java is pretty easy and straightforward to use, if you don't agree, try something like LISP... ;-) The problem is, people today want to take a 2 hour online course on programming and start building enterprise applications by clicking...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:51:14 -0500</pubDate>

        

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            <description><![CDATA[This post was too rich for me to ignore. =) ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:57:54 -0500</pubDate>

        

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            <description><![CDATA[Uhh ... Swing is not that complex. Actually it is rather well constructed. If you dont have the ability to learn it in a flash then perhaps you should consider a carreer change. ...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[just forgot something...jcreator has a code completion to...and its a really cool feature. but i think you still need to look at the docs most of the time...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[visualize a project to be done that can be achieved with Java or the .NET, if there are 100 java-capable programmers and u have 1000 .NET-capable programmers...What is the probability of that project being implemented in java or .NET? What im pointing...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[About the complexity of the APIs, well what can I say, if you think swing is too complex I guess you should stick to VB... The thing is, the more you want to be able to do, the more complex the APIs will get. I don't think there's a way around that. If...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[&quot;Anyways, I don't even understand why people talk about user-friendliness for a programming language... The IDE can be user-friendly, but that as nothing to do with the language itself...&quot;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2002 22:54:04 -0500</pubDate>

        

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            <description><![CDATA[&quot;Instead of trying to create 100% sound, scalable and flexible try creating just 80% of it, add the 20% on user-friendliness and ease-of-use, coz what ultimately matters are the developers( users in this case) &quot;...]]></description>
        

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