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        <title>hi</title>
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        <title>I totally disagree with Arnold</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[&lt;david&gt;...]]></description>
        

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        <title>I totally disagree with Arnold</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[&lt;Janne Nyk?nen &gt;...]]></description>
        

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        <title>I still totally disagree with Arnold</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[&lt;final&gt;...]]></description>
        

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<br>&lt;quote&gt;
<br>2) remove the final-keyword. 
<br>&lt;/quote&gt;
<br>
<br>Good one.  You don't always have the source of the libraries you use.
<br>
<br>-- 
<br>Cedric
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            <description><![CDATA[&lt;Why the use of final is &quot;radical&quot;? It's not! If you are in the (normal/typical) project and in some later point in the project you need to subclass a final class, all you have to do is to 1) make the final class _eligible_ to be inherited...]]></description>
        

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        <title>I totally disagree with Arnold</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Interesting points, Janne......]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[The problem with the net - you can't really trust every article you read and you must be careful - applies very much...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Interview with Ken Arnold on Java Design Issues</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote">&quot;in reference to the constructor issues... this might sound odd as its been 4 or 5 years since of touched Delphi, but one feature that i thought was &quot;cool&quot; in that language was the concept of...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[The question I always have about metadata annotations is the impact on development.  Doesn't it break type safety?  Does anyone have a reference to any conversations or explanations on how durable a system becomes after using metadata annotations?  ...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[To add to Rod's comments on often different use of inheritance in frameworks and applications....]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[I agree with Oleg's distinction between framework and application developers, as I've written a lot of both types of code and seen the different issues as the codebase evolves....]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[&lt;Cedric &gt;...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[Roger Session is such a moron and contributed NOTHING, actually worth than nothing, to the computing community. 
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<br>No one should be in the same room with him.]]></description>
        

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