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        <title>Simplification?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Yep, I agree with you....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:57:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 4, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jean-Pol Landrain</jf:author>
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        <title>Quite a few things to simplify</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17497</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">Yes, you can certainly write an app with shitty design much faster than one with good design.</div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:33:50 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Jean-Pol Landrain</jf:author>
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        <title>Stockholm Syndrome</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Hmm. As fact I really do live in Stockholm..
<br>
<br>Regards
<br>Rolf Tollerud]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:08:58 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
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        <title>Stockholm Syndrome</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Race, I'm afraid you've developed Stockholm Syndrome...you've learned to identify with a tormentor and eventually embrace them.  :)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:35:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Elaine Brownson</jf:author>
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        <title>Simplification?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Robert,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:58:09 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rod Johnson</jf:author>
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        <title>Simplification?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Rod;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:43:53 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Robert Simmons</jf:author>
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        <title>Alive and well</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Im not sure how to take that Rolf. I merely speak my mind. After spending another 3 weeks unraveling the mess of pathetic EJB and GUI code made by yet another JBuilder autogeneration jockey, I get a bit punchy. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:32:19 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Robert Simmons</jf:author>
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        <title>Alive and well</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Rolf,
<br>
<br>Most people complain about you but I must admit, you crack me up. 
<br>
<br>Long live Rolf!]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:52:58 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Race Condition</jf:author>
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        <title>Alive and well</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Robert,
<br>
<br>Oh thank god, I was a little afraid that you had become sick or something, - but now am I reassured. The old Java community in action again!
<br>
<br>Regards
<br>Rolf Tollerud]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:37:32 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
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        <title>Simplification?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[&lt;quote&gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:23:21 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Rod Johnson</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[&quot;In fact, the industry has been suffering from an influx of amatuers that can talk a good game but complain of &quot;complexity&quot; when anyone wants them to actually accomplish anything.&quot;
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<br>Amen.  Preach it brother.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:50:20 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
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        <title>Spellchecker needed</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Hmm ... needed feature ... spellchecker. Wow, my typign in that last post was lousy.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:21:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Robert Simmons</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[What is complicated? Truly. There is soem dead weight in the JDK, namely AWT, but nothign in the JDK is particularly complicated. The reality is exactly what Sun admitted to. That this initiative is beign driven by Oracle. There is only one word here,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:19:06 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Robert Simmons</jf:author>
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        <title>Quite a few things to simplify</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[&quot;If Sun does not improve on library design, they'll loose the J2EE market : it takes much more time to write an Enterprise application with Java rather than with .Net (see <a class="jive-link-external"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:13:08 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ryan Breidenbach</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">2) Better library design (nobody with their head in the right place thinks that Swing has a good design - academically sound, yes, but hopeless in large realworld apps) </div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:30:45 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jean-Pol Landrain</jf:author>
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