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        <title>no problem</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[You can prefer BEA as it is more suitable to your needs. I don't think that one editor is the right choice for every body....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:24:09 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 3, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Hicham Bakir</jf:author>
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        <title>You couldn't be more Wrong!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[BEA's Integration offering kicks A**!...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2003 08:33:40 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 3, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Matt Gunter</jf:author>
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        <title>You couldn't be more right</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[BEA offeres very little when it comes to integraqtion.  Except for Tuxedo, they make it very hard to integrate with other legacy.  (The majority being applications like CICS, IMS, VSAm, etc...)  I have seen many customers have to use an extra layer of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2003 20:14:22 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 2, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Roland Barcia</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA already implements IBM's so-called &amp;quot;vision&amp;quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Last year, at OMG Days, I heard a presentation from Patrick Maes, Chief Technology Officer of SoundView Technology Group. The study was about the economic view of the middlewares market....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2003 16:14:34 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 2, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Hicham Bakir</jf:author>
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        <title>very clear?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">WLS's announced 8.1 release did not even tout J2EE 1.4</div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2003 03:17:02 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 1, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Samuel Ballew</jf:author>
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        <title>RE: to Disgruntled BEA employee</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&lt;q&gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:36:30 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sven van t Veer</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA already implements IBM's so-called &amp;quot;vision&amp;quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The BEA platform also includes a rules engine in what used to be the Commerce Server.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:25:19 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sven van t Veer</jf:author>
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        <title>RE: to Disgruntled BEA employee</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[| ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:47:40 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nick Minutello</jf:author>
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        <title>POJO on Steroids</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&lt;Brian&gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:24:28 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Matt Gunter</jf:author>
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        <title>Services Oriented Architectures have been here since 1985</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Indeed, SOA is not tied to a particular programming language or operating system/platform....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:30:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>doronsherman</jf:author>
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        <title>RE: to Disgruntled BEA employee</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[If a vendor is telling me that they provide everything I need for every step of the development process, including analysis, design, development, and every stage of deployment, and that their solution will work for me, then I say that the vendor is...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:21:39 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Drew McAuliffe</jf:author>
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        <title>RE: to Disgruntled BEA employee</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Two words: Sour grapes.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:50:39 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Lewis</jf:author>
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        <title>RE: to Disgruntled BEA employee</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Services-oriented architecture...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:35:51 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:35:51 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jan 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>T Q</jf:author>
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        <title>Service Based Architecture?????</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Isn't it was solved by Corba or Jini years ago?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:56:53 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ilia Iourovitski</jf:author>
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        <title>Services Oriented Architectures have been here since 1985</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=17669</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Tuxedo, Encina, and Top End, as well as IBMs' CICS environment have provided services-oriented architectures since the 80s, albeit on a largely proprietary level. (however, BEAs' Tuxedo connects seamlessly to IBM CICS and both support remote 2PC).  The...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:29:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>David Ressler</jf:author>
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