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        <title>eg</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[So, for example, Ward Mullins might make all kinds of negative claims about the JDO specification, purely out of self interest. But that doesn't make the claims necessarily untrue.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2003 03:31:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 01 May 2003 03:31:27 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 1, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gavin King</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>ad hominem</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[An &quot;argumentum ad hominem&quot; is a fallacy where the speaker attacks the person making an argument or claim by questioning their motives/qualifications/intelligence/etc rather than addressing the argument or claim itself.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2003 03:29:26 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 1, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gavin King</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>queries</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I'm a pretty simple guy. And I don't know what an &quot;ad hominem&quot; is, but I do know what a &quot;flame&quot; is, and I do know FUD when I see it. To the great credit of all the open source guys, the open source community has *not* been the source...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2003 01:38:32 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 01 May 2003 01:38:32 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 1, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>nextdb</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>joins</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It is simply not true to say that you will see better performance by using many round-trips to the database, particularly in a typical kind of clustered environment where the database server resides on a different machine to the application....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:48:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:48:24 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gavin King</jf:author>
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        <title>Performance</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"> </div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:26:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:26:13 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:26:13 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Apr 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Raul Davidovich</jf:author>
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        <title>Performance</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">This is horribly inefficient and is just not how relational databases are intended to be used. This kind of approach causes killer n+1 problems once applications become sufficiently complicated. Relational data MUST be accessed...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:57:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:57:53 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 29, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Samson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>JDO / OR MApping / ODBMS</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"> </div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:46:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 29, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Samson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Vision on future of ORM</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">Remember, joining is what relational databases *do*. It is essential to the future success of ORM that tools are able to take full advantage of the underlying relational technology. Hibernate's approach to this is an O/R query...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:33:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 29, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Samson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>JOIN JDO Expert Group</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote">Gavin you're welcome if you want to participate and promote your vision. &lt;&gt; </div></div></div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:23:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:23:11 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 29, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Samson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Performance</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">This is horribly inefficient and is just not how relational databases are intended to be used. This kind of approach causes killer n+1 problems once applications become sufficiently complicated. Relational data MUST be accessed...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:21:22 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 29, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Samson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Performance</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">This is horribly inefficient and is just not how relational databases are intended to be used. This kind of approach causes killer n+1 problems once applications become sufficiently complicated. Relational data MUST be accessed...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:17:08 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:17:08 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 29, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Samson</jf:author>
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        <title>Performance</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[disable outerjoining on most associations. So the only way to take proper advantage of joining ends up being some kind of &quot;fetching&quot; API, or a decent QL....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:16:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:16:23 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 29, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Samson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Queries - Aggregations</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">Aggregation is &quot;low level&quot;?? Almost all applications need to do some kind of analysis which means sorting, grouping, ordering (all at the same time). It is NOT efficient to do this in the business tier.</div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:12:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 29, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Samson</jf:author>
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        <title>Queries - Aggregations</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">Aggregation is &quot;low level&quot;?? Almost all applications need to do some kind of analysis which means sorting, grouping, ordering (all at the same time). It is NOT efficient to do this in the business tier.</div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:10:51 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:10:51 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 29, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Samson</jf:author>
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        <title>queries</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19015</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote">This is why, IMHO, there is no need to deal with all the SQL possibilities at the JDOQL level: the only result you can get from a JDOQL queries is a Collection of Objects. &lt;</div></div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2003 11:50:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 29, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gavin King</jf:author>
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