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        <title>Is it too late to add operator overload?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19564</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[In trying to keep our apps independent of the exact type of the numerical data in the database we end up converting everythyng to BigDecimals or BigIntegers with casts and method invocations. Can you imagine the length of the code you have to write when...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2003 04:51:42 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 3, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Fernando Fernandez</jf:author>
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        <title>Do you think you'll use these new features?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19564</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">I'm just wondering if you reckon that you'll use the new features. Is it just unneccesary bloat which you won't use. Will it make your life easier, you really relish the thought of these? Let us all know.</div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2003 12:33:45 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 2, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Thomas Mattson</jf:author>
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        <title>Do you think you'll use these new features?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19564</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I think templates are an awful solution. Evolution of OOP languages are in the way of untyped variables, so you don't need cast them....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:11:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:11:59 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jun 2, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>sergio levin</jf:author>
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        <title>Unfortunately, simplicity is hard to sell</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19564</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Anders,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:19:40 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:19:40 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:19:40 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jun 1, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gal Binyamini</jf:author>
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        <title>Unfortunately, simplicity is hard to sell</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19564</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote">yes. exactly my point such assignment are *unsafe* thus I don't like dynamic arrays of a generic collections (YMMV) </div></div></div></div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2003 07:43:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2003 07:43:36 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jun 1, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Anders Dahlberg</jf:author>
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        <title>What a C++ fun you are</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19564</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Just like me, hehe. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 23:17:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 23:17:38 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jeff Xiong</jf:author>
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        <title>Everything can be generic</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19564</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Compiler will erase all type arguments into Objects. So you should only take care of the duplication problem(i.e. you can't place two element have same signature). ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 23:05:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 23:05:48 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jeff Xiong</jf:author>
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        <title>The NextGen paper</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19564</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[FYI, I found a version of the NextGen paper which is available without subscription at <a href="http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/cartwright98compatible.html" target="_blank">CiteSeer</a>.
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<br>Gal]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 22:11:37 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gal Binyamini</jf:author>
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        <title>Do you think you'll use these new features?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">The syntax order is backwards as compared to variable and method definitions. Am I the only one that things &quot;&lt;String&gt;List list = new &lt;String&gt;ArrayList()&quot; makes more sense? Or maybe &quot;(String)List list =...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 21:50:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gal Binyamini</jf:author>
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        <title>Do you think you'll use these new features?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[On Generics, I think that something that meets the need is definitely needed. I've seen big apps without it, and it then becomes a nightmare to figure out what the x342HashMap contains without debugging or a lot of walking around....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 20:55:42 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Leif Ashley</jf:author>
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        <title>Unfortunately, simplicity is hard to sell</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19564</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote">yes. exactly my point such assignment are *unsafe* thus I don't like dynamic arrays of a generic collections (YMMV) </div></div></div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 17:38:20 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 17:38:20 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gal Binyamini</jf:author>
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        <title>Unfortunately, simplicity is hard to sell</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19564</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote">yes. exactly my point such assignment are *unsafe* thus I don't like dynamic arrays of a generic collections (YMMV) </div></div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 16:25:09 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 16:25:09 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 16:25:09 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Anders Dahlberg</jf:author>
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        <title>Most of the JAVA kids are pretty new to templates anyway!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19564</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Toby&gt; Explain even one way in which Java Generics are more type safe than C++ templates. I can tell you how Java Generics are unsafe and can cause errors at runtime, though. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 15:09:42 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 15:09:42 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>ravi tadwalkar</jf:author>
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        <title>C# and DOTNET has problems too</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19564</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[C# is also missing the ability to create anonymous inner classes. It just isn't supported. Go figure. Also MS has problems with the VS Studio debugger. Never a perfect world I guess....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 14:39:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 14:39:24 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Leif Ashley</jf:author>
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        <title>No Foreach sucks</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=19564</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Yea... I understand that they did this for backwards compatibility reasons. However I'd rather have a more complete and readable language where I need to make some tweeks to my source than a hack of the short IF form syntax....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 14:26:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 30, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Leif Ashley</jf:author>
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