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        <title>How to estimate labor of effort?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[How do you guys estimate the number of hours needed for the project of this size before starting to work? Based on number of requirements?
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<br>How many screens does each team implement?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2004 15:07:49 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 2, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Chen</jf:author>
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        <title>Every abstraction layer invokes the same diatribes</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I don't know how long most of you folks have been writing code, but it has been my experience that every time we try to move to a higher level of abstraction we encounter the same resistance. When assembly was overtaken by compiled/functional languages....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:47:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:47:21 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 19, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Doug Schwartz</jf:author>
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        <title>Bad press for Java development</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I have to agree with Luis Neves on this one. We are supposed to be impressed with 330 hours to develop this Pet Store website....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2003 23:31:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 8, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jeff smith</jf:author>
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        <title>unbelievable</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&quot;While MDA is a much more mature technology than Cugnot's automobile (there are viable implementations out there now, including OptimalJ), it is still maturing.  For example, the round tripping issue needs to be addressed.  Nevertheless, looking at...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:59:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:59:17 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Stu Charlton</jf:author>
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        <title>Thanks!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Thanks - I haven't had a really good laugh from TSS in a long time.  My own version is far less funny &quot;and shazam - your architects are now a major bottleneck on the project!&quot;.
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<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-Mike]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:41:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:41:36 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:41:36 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 29, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Spille</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Reply- Rolling</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<i>Code is generated from a pattern. Patterns are assessible to skilled knowledgable architects via pattern authoring. Generated code is guarded so that if you want to change something as a developer is concerned you check in with the architect to make...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:36:45 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:36:45 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 29, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Brian Miller</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Reply- Rolling</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Code is generated from a pattern. Patterns are assessible to skilled knowledgable architects via pattern authoring. Generated code is guarded so that if you want to change something as a developer is concerned you check in with the architect to make sure...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:43:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 29, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>michael gaines</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Seeing the bigger picture</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&lt;brian miller&gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 03:14:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 28, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Zemek</jf:author>
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        <title>Seeing the bigger picture</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<i>...visual models don't convey enough semantic content to write a real app with all of its behavior.</i>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:33:20 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 26, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Brian Miller</jf:author>
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        <title>Seeing the bigger picture</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Alot of the negativity you may be seeing here is due to the fact that people have heard _exactly_ the same line for the past 20 years.  And each new modelling fad tells how it's magically different from the older (failed) one, and how this time it really...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:32:39 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:32:39 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Spille</jf:author>
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        <title>Seeing the bigger picture</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Nicolas Cugnot introduced the first steam-powered road vehicle in 1769. Imagine the TSS discussion thread it might have provoked:  Many would express curiosity and intrigue over the idea of a self-propelled vehicle.  But others would be skeptical.  One...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:15:44 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>David Herst</jf:author>
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        <title>In the end it is just code. . .</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[So one team got to use an MDA tool which supposedly is there to increase their productivity, and the second team was artificially limited to use nothing but their IDE and were forbidden from using non-MDA productivity-enhancing tools....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:33:37 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:33:37 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Spille</jf:author>
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        <title>In the end it is just code. . .</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I was the team lead on the non MDA team....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:12:52 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>owen taylor</jf:author>
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        <title>Version Control</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[On the beginig of this article i read this:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2003 06:26:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>dasdas dada</jf:author>
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        <title>MDA vs libraries</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20476</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">I wouldn't call the petstore the &quot;ecommerce&quot; problem.  First of all, there is no commerce involved in it.  Secondly, it covers only one potential aspect of ecommerce:  the shopping cart.  It may sound banal to refer to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:45:03 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 23, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Anick Thistle</jf:author>
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