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        <title>Acceleration and more</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Cameron: <i>In both of these areas, Microsoft is showing negative acceleration. Just like IBM in the late 80s was still potent and profitable, but basically irrelevant from a strategic perspective.</i>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:07:15 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:07:15 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 28, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Acceleration and more</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<i>Cameron:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:14:35 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:14:35 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 28, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cedric Beust</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Sun supports SourceForge</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[... in fact Sun even went and initially asked them to host java.net but they declined for their own business reasons. See <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9965"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:03:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:03:02 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 28, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Simon Phipps</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>GPL Java core</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I totally support having JRE under GPL. Then bugs could be fixed by developers. (eg. I'm sure the JDOM guys would have fixed the StringBuffer bug if they could). I think that Sun should definitely control the Java brand name, just change the development...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 06:25:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 06:25:12 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 28, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Zemek</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Utter FUD!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The absurd 'boycott this' and 'boycott that' attitude would do more harm than good to Java technology and the Java community as a whole. Your goal is obviously to undermine the proliferation of Java technology....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:50:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:50:12 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 27, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andy Bouch</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Is this site sponsored by THE MONOPOLIST?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The theme appears to be to fragment Java in any which way you can. Even has some referennces to Mono, etc. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:18:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:18:27 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:18:27 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>For Download</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Reuse, Reuse, Reuse</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">Btw, under what license will Viva be released? GPL? </div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:11:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:11:23 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:11:23 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gerald Bauer</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Have a puff .. one won't kill you</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Sartoris: <i>I guess I'm not getting your definition of revenues. Certainly if you add up all the sales revenue for software that runs on MS OSs and subtract all the MS revenues for software that runs on MS OSs and you will come up with a large...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:50:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:50:02 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:50:02 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Article</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the article....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:59:56 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:59:56 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:59:56 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lofi Dewanto</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Just another article</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Here is something I found on java.net... 
<br>
<br><a class="jive-link-external" href="http://weblogs.java.net/pub/wlg/202" target="_newWindow">http://weblogs.java.net/pub/wlg/202</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:30:26 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:30:26 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nagsen Chankapure</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Have a puff .. one won't kill you</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&quot;Microsoft gets 100% of the revenues in its world. &quot;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:47:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:47:55 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Todd Murray</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>5</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>RE: Enough conspiracy theories</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">Your conspiracy theories are growing on me, I am beginning to think you are &gt;paid by Microsoft to undermine Java... </div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:22:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:22:41 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:22:41 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rob Abbe</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>&amp;quot;guk!&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;mu!&amp;quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&lt;quote&gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:54:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:54:13 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:54:13 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lofi Dewanto</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>??&amp;quot;Has a dog got the Buddha nature&amp;quot;??</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[And the answer &quot;mu!&quot; is also the chinese for a dog bark.. bowwow..]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 03:05:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 03:05:38 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Test Dummy</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Under what license?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=20513</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Btw, under what license will Viva be released? GPL?
<br>
<br>Benny Ng]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:54:40 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 24, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Benny Ng</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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