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        <title>i guess not always..redux</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&lt;snip&gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2003 08:39:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karl Banke</jf:author>
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        <title>i guess not always..redux</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">But should they? An interesting question indeed. If you want to break the &gt;framework, why buy it in the first place? Sometimes things like these are &gt;business decisions, and sometimes shortcuts, twists and tweaks are just...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2003 14:49:44 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 11, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>ima dummy</jf:author>
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        <title>I guess not always</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&lt;snip&gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:07:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 11, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karl Banke</jf:author>
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        <title>Software delusions...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[i disagree with you Frank. i've been there before, as one of these high dollar consultants and these consulting service fees are a total waste of time. more often than not, the developers looking for advice from the product experts have more knowledge...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:22:14 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 10, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>ima dummy</jf:author>
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        <title>Differentiating between  Assessment  and Sales Pitch</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&quot;I would say that assessment services shoulld not be free.&quot;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:34:22 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:34:22 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 10, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Wille Faler</jf:author>
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        <title>Differentiating between  Assessment  and Sales Pitch</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Wille, I concur that if you have an on-going relationship with say Accenture, CGEY etc, then these should be able to provide any services that BEA. No doubt. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2003 15:56:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2003 15:56:01 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Manish Sharan</jf:author>
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        <title>kewords - business and integration</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Well, if you can find me people that can perfectly understand the customers business, demands and needs, and then come up with the perfect masterplan on how to solve it, all in 3-5 days, have them give me a call! I think I could get them jobs at at least...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2003 15:55:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2003 15:55:12 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Wille Faler</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA Trying to Beef Up Services</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<i>By the way, these numbers didn't seem that far out of line compared to IBM's numbers.</i>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2003 15:35:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Corby Page</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA Trying to Beef Up Services</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<i>If you're going to bust their balls, at least have the moral decency to use actual prices, not some made-up garbage. (I'm not saying your opinion is wrong or right, but making up numbers to make them look bad is really lousy.)</i>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2003 15:27:07 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Corby Page</jf:author>
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        <title>Who controls the budget?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<i>I'm wondering of the three people that posted replies which one of them has $21,000 in spending authority?</i>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2003 15:13:28 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Corby Page</jf:author>
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        <title>kewords - business and integration</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I personally have seen millions go down the drain while someone tried to figure out how to set up 4 unix machines. BEA has been there done that for most any type of deployment, integration, or implementation from scratch. Sometimes you have to spend...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2003 15:13:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rob Murtha</jf:author>
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        <title>Former?!#@</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&quot;Former Director&quot;
<br>
<br>Who's going to play Tom Cruise at the next eWorld?!
<br>
<br>I hate the idea that you've left BEA.
<br>
<br>-Frank]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2003 15:10:44 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>fcohen</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA Trying to Beef Up Services</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Corby,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:59:15 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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        <title>Hmmmmmmm</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&quot;It may take a couple of months to come up with a good deployment strategy / architecture. How many consultants can actually provide truly useful information / analysis in 3 days?&quot;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:48:39 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Wille Faler</jf:author>
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        <title>Who controls the budget?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=21332</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I am not opposing the &quot;paying a premium&quot;, quality does cost. My point is: that if you have an on-going relationship with say Accenture, CGEY etc, then these should be able to provide any services that BEA provides regarding what a customer...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:43:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Wille Faler</jf:author>
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