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    <title>Support Forums: Message List - Clarification on MVC Pull and MVC Push</title>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 00:20:01 -0400</pubDate>


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        <title>yellowfin</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>still not sold on the mvc pull and push..but thats just me</p>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:34:26 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>colemanworks</jf:author>
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        <title>mvc</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>i agree with what you said here</p>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 01:40:51 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 30, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>club stork</jf:author>
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        <title>Masters</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Can you point me to where &quot;push vs. pull&quot; is defined in GoF DP?  I don't remember that section.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:46:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:46:27 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 21, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Much higher level than that...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&quot;The push/pull comes from the direction in relation to the model that notification of updates to the model come from. &quot;<br><br>you are talking about observer pattern which is just a brick in the MVC arcuitecture. <br><br>I think push/pull has...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2004 09:02:22 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2004 09:02:22 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>ale gos</jf:author>
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        <title>Based on &amp;quot;Events&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Data&amp;quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I guess it depends on what you form your basis on - Events or Data.<br><br>Personally, feel that the &quot;Data&quot; based paradigm mentioned in the PHP article mentioned above (<a href="http://wact.sourceforge.net/index.php/TemplateView"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:22:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 25, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mohan Kishore</jf:author>
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        <title>Masters</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Rod Johnson &quot;Expert One-on-One J2EE Design and Development&quot;, The GoF book, &quot;Design Patterns, Elements of Reusable Object Orientated Software&quot;.  If you haven't read either of those books, then you are missing out on the OO programmer...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:08:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 14, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven  Lohrenz</jf:author>
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        <title>Much higher level than that...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Well, I'm just quoting the masters...</blockquote>Really?  Can you point me to what you are quoting?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:54:30 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 23, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Much higher level than that...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Well, I'm just quoting the masters...<br><br>The GoF <br>and <br>Rod Johnson<br>and <br>various other authors...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:01:54 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 22, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven  Lohrenz</jf:author>
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        <title>Much higher level than that...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[OK.  I guess that makes sense.  I think there are other ways to look at it.  However, if the point is to agree on a standard terminology, I can get on board with what you have described.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:04:35 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 18, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Much higher level than that...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>In my mind that's a 'pull'.</blockquote>The push/pull comes from the direction in relation to the model that notification of updates to the model come from.  <br><br>The notification is 'pushed' from the model to the view.<br><br>The...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:30:26 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 18, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven  Lohrenz</jf:author>
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        <title>Much higher level than that...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>In a 'true' MVC architecture (ala SmallTalk or Swing GUI) each view registers with the model which publishes events when it's data is updated.  When the view receives these notifications it updates the data it is displaying. This is a 'push'...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:10:09 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 17, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Much higher level than that...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[In a 'true' MVC architecture (ala SmallTalk or Swing GUI) each view registers with the model which publishes events when it's data is updated.  When the view receives these notifications it updates the data it is displaying.  This is a 'push'...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:22:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 17, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven  Lohrenz</jf:author>
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        <title>what about this definition?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[In my understanding push and pull are much more general concepts and that caries over to MVC.<br><br>MVC pull is the most common strategy for view-&gt;model communication.  The model has a bunch of hooks that it exposes.  The view is then required to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2004 09:54:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 11, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Pull restricts view flexability</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I am working on a fairly mature dynamo project and the we are at the point in the lifecycle where we have been asked to be able to run multiple versions of the product in parallel.  I have been advocating MVC2, more to the point currently we have a pull...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2004 19:41:18 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 17, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nigel Bond</jf:author>
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        <title>Push and Pull: jakarta Turbine</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22143</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hello,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:46:06 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 27, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bo van Weert</jf:author>
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