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        <title>Anybody use InternetBeans Express?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I wonder why no one mentioned InternetBeans Express here? It's an amazing framework that makes building web application a breeze and really achieves seperation of logic and presentation. It's the closest thing to what .net guys gets Uncle Bill's Visual...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:38:03 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 13, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bashar AJ</jf:author>
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        <title>Is Struts embarrassing?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2003 02:14:14 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 23, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nidhi Sahni</jf:author>
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        <title>Don't make me get out the hose...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Thanks to TheServerSide for doing a review of my book. While I don't agree with everything the reviewer says, I think it was fair and balanced....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:55:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 12, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Neal Ford</jf:author>
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        <title>What you REALLY want is Cocoon (you just don't know it)?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&quot;If your starting state is a database, and then maybe a Java representation (which is pretty common), then I still don't see the point in doing an intermediary transformation to XML prior to HTML. &quot;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:05:50 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:05:50 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 10, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Todd Murray</jf:author>
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        <title>Tapestry coverage</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I've also been using tapestry recently.  The documentation sucks and it's a pretty steep learning curve but now that further along I'm really loving the framework.  It's great how much can be done with so little....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:44:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Glen Stampoultzis</jf:author>
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        <title>Take my Tapestry ... please!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[In all seriousness, that's what the Apache Software License is all about. If BEA wants to make use of Tapestry as part of the WebLogic server, that's fine. If they want to take the code, modify it and call it &quot;BEA Web Components&quot; or something...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:09:28 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:09:28 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Howard Lewis Ship</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA Portal framework vs. Struts</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Maybe Weblogic 9.2 will drop Struts and use Tapestry based on the comments in this forum. 
<br>
<br>(Sorry couldn't resist).
<br>
<br>David]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:12:34 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>David Jones</jf:author>
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        <title>JSP 2.0  : why bother with Tapestry</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I guess what would immesely help would be a tutorial like &quot;Tapestry for Struts addicts&quot; -- it would help us to get started with what I am beginning to believe is a better approach.
<br>
<br>Thanks for your feedback!]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:46:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Manish Sharan</jf:author>
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        <title>What is MVC? Does Struts support it?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[My answer to the second question is no, neither Struts nor any Model 2-based framework really supports MVC....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:28:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rogerio Liesenfeld</jf:author>
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        <title>What you REALLY want is Cocoon (you just don't know it)?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[XML transformations (XSLT) is an overhyped technology. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 02:23:52 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Vagif Verdi</jf:author>
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        <title>What you REALLY want is Cocoon (you just don't know it)?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[If your starting state is a database, and then maybe a Java representation (which is pretty common), then I still don't see the point in doing an intermediary transformation to XML prior to HTML. It doesn't really grant you anything. It's much easier...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 02:01:39 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 9, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Drew McAuliffe</jf:author>
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        <title>JSP 2.0  : why bother with Tapestry</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote">OK. I'm convinced. I'm goint to dig into tapestry + hibernate for our next big new project. </div></div>
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<br>Tapestry + Cayenne is also a killer combination.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:31:35 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 8, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>bob farmer</jf:author>
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        <title>JSP 2.0  : why bother with Tapestry</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[OK. I'm convinced. I'm goint to dig into tapestry + hibernate for our next big new project.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2003 20:02:15 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 8, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Vagif Verdi</jf:author>
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        <title>What you REALLY want is Cocoon (you just don't know it)?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[...then you could write XSLT to automatically create your java from the combination of the two......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:57:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 8, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>aaron  evans</jf:author>
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        <title>JSP 2.0  : why bother with Tapestry</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=22754</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Well, since you asked I think there are several problems....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:41:52 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 8, 2003</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jason Cox</jf:author>
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