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        <title>Yes, J3EE is more or less a joke, but...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Most of J2EE is actually quite nice. I don't mind things like Servlets, JDBC, JTA, JMS, JMX, etc. It's also nice to have a spec you can rely on, you can actually write really portable applications with it (if you avoid using EJB). But if you are saying...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:51:09 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 23, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jon Tirsen</jf:author>
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        <title>Do we really need it</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">f/ So our current roadmap/stack in JB4 for microcontainers (TM)</div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 04:11:08 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 22, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michal Maczka</jf:author>
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        <title>Do we really need it</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Ara,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:50:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Juergen Hoeller</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<i>Ara:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:12:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 21, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cedric Beust</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Let me clarify what I really meant with J3EE and an open source project for it....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:12:59 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 21, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ara Abrahamian</jf:author>
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        <title>Do we really need it</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Well, if they've been quiet since DR2 because they've been working out grand designs, learning lessons from the DR2 release, rethinking architecture, and seriously consider the best approach to achieve 4.0 final - well, then bravo.  ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:08:40 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 20, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Spille</jf:author>
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        <title>Do we really need it</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[It's a good sign JBoss 4 has been quiet since DR2. That was a proof of concept but, as Mike has pointed out in the long history of this feud, not a production ready implementation. I hope they are re-thinking how to get to production ready Jboss-AOP and...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:44:02 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 20, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gary Struthers</jf:author>
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        <title>Do we really need it</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Yes, Marc, AOP and the middle ware aspects, they're very important, to both you, your company, and the open source you're shepherding....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:07:24 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 20, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Spille</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">The whole point of J2EE is vendor neutrality.  Does J3EE also avoid vendor lock in?</div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:17:20 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 20, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Juergen Hoeller</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<i>It seems that J2EE is prefix versus J3EE's a la carte approach. While the J3EE technologies works (or will work: JSR-175) they still lack standards backing, maturity, and IDE integration to be considered main stream enterprise technologies.</i>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:42:10 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 20, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Brian Miller</jf:author>
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        <title>No Joke</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I agree with you, Marc.  Go Marc! Go!  On the topic of frameworks coming up with alternatives to EJBs.  I am perplexed as to why developers should ignore the power of EJBs when they offer fine grained security and such.  The security features alone are a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:34:01 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 20, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Boyd</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Great post.  It seems that J2EE is prefix versus J3EE's a la carte approach. While the J3EE technologies works (or will work: JSR-175) they still lack standards backing, maturity, and IDE integration to be considered main stream enterprise technologies....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:00:00 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 20, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andrew Clifford</jf:author>
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        <title>EJBs and microcontainer</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I wonder how the terms EJB and microcontainers got fit in the same sentence (either upper or lowercase)..]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2004 04:27:09 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 20, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Kristof Jozsa</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[shit... way to lenghty... bad case of insomnia in NYC. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:43:52 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 20, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>marc fleury</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[He he, ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:35:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 20, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>marc fleury</jf:author>
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