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        <title>Shocks=J2EE specs for graphical tools ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I think I can say with others that I'm already quite familiar with the WARS style you describe. But I don't quite understand why you would have to create new frameworks round this concept.<br><br>IMHO, WARS is already present in the completely classic...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:38:45 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:38:45 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 30, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Candide Kemmler</jf:author>
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        <title>That's too bad.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">My definition of &quot;Controller&quot; comes from the man who created MVC, so it's </div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2004 00:54:37 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2004 00:54:37 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2004 00:54:37 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 2, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Amanjit Singh Gill</jf:author>
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        <title>Semantics</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I agree that the argument over &quot;controller&quot; as it applies to MVC - modern or historical meaning - is one of semantics. Which is fine, so long as we understand each other's perspective and meaning. But I still can't accept how arguing that - the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:47:28 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:47:28 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 1, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Loopy</jf:author>
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        <title>That's too bad.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Actually I don't think the source you cite even comes close to supporting your definition of &quot;controllers&quot;, which seems to me to be what the rest of us tend to refer to as &quot;controls&quot;....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2004 18:10:24 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2004 18:10:24 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2004 18:10:24 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 1, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>David Friar</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Swing apps &amp;amp; generic command pattern frameworks</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote">Are there any concrete examples of XWork/WW2 for non-Web-based applications? I've got a couple of apps taht need to have a Web and Swing-based view tacked on. I would love to be able to use a generic...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:40:57 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:40:57 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>N. Alex Rupp</jf:author>
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        <title>Show us the way!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote">Are there any concrete examples of XWork/WW2 for non-Web-based applications? &gt;I've got a couple of apps taht need to have a Web and Swing-based view tacked on. &gt;I would love to be able to use a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:37:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:37:42 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>N. Alex Rupp</jf:author>
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        <title>Agreed.  Check out Webwork.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Jason's right.  Webwork does a lot of the protocol-neutral runtime state aggregation already--they've been doing a really good job at it for quite a while now.  The protocol-neutral representational model is a ways off in Shocks....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:32:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:32:31 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>N. Alex Rupp</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Separation of Tiers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">Some of my colleagues and I have also been concerned about the tight coupling between the transport protocol (HTTP) and the MVC-type framework that many implementations such as Struts exhibit today.</div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:26:30 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:26:30 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>N. Alex Rupp</jf:author>
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        <title>API docs are coming with Unit tests</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I'm about to roll an alpha-3 release of Shocks, which will include API docs and some unit tests.  I was ready to roll the release two weeks ago, but I've been trying to add some tests before I do that.  I imagine the alpha-3 will be out in the next week...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:23:53 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>N. Alex Rupp</jf:author>
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        <title>That's too bad.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[My definition of &quot;Controller&quot; comes from the man who created MVC, so it's the &quot;old&quot; definition, not some &quot;new&quot; one I dreamt up in the shower ;)...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:22:10 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>N. Alex Rupp</jf:author>
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        <title>Similarities abound.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">The concept seems awfully close to the one I'm using =)</div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:19:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>N. Alex Rupp</jf:author>
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        <title>That's about as much as I could ask for</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">1) Why do you hold up the presence of the ActionForm class as an example of how struts is not MVC, or more specifically, how Forms do not conform to the idea of a model? </div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:03:37 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:03:37 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>N. Alex Rupp</jf:author>
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        <title>Separation of Tiers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">Are there any concrete examples of XWork/WW2 for non-Web-based applications? I've got a couple of apps taht need to have a Web and Swing-based view tacked on. I would love to be able to use a generic command processing framework...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:25:57 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jason Carreira</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Separation of Tiers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">Are there any concrete examples of XWork/WW2 for non-Web-based applications? &gt;I've got a couple of apps taht need to have a Web and Swing-based view tacked on. &gt;I would love to be able to use a generic command processing...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 11:15:24 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>thoff thoff</jf:author>
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        <title>Still over domain objects, right?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=23625</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote">Some of my colleagues and I have also been concerned about the tight </div></div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:58:14 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Brand</jf:author>
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