Support Forums: Message List - Tales From TheServerSide Cartoon - Framework Lock-In http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 02:27:28 -0400 Stop shooting yourself in the foot http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 Seriously though, it always amuses me that all the big open-source, free software proponents are all people who made their big $$$ working for companies that they now claim are evil.A true free-software proponent should estimate how much...]]> Wed, 26 May 2004 00:24:51 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 00:24:51 -0400 Wed, 26 May 2004 00:24:51 -0400 May 26, 2004 Roger Glover 0 RE: Here is some bad news for java fans http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 Java Servlets - local references to .jhtml, .jsp, .gsp file extensions, or a local url starting "/servlets".Does this mean they don't take into consideration *.do for struts or xml for cocoon? It's a rather limited test...]]> Tue, 20 Apr 2004 01:23:33 -0400 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 01:23:33 -0400 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 01:23:33 -0400 Apr 20, 2004 Anthony Ikeda 0 How lame...NOT http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 Spring, struts, and webwork are barely capable frameworks, especially struts. The real downfall of all these frameworks is the lack of integration and support to build a web application. They?re ok for building sites for things like news, but...]]> Tue, 20 Apr 2004 01:07:47 -0400 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 01:07:47 -0400 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 01:07:47 -0400 Apr 20, 2004 Anthony Ikeda 0 JSF Architecture Rules! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 Tue, 13 Apr 2004 00:27:55 -0400 Tue, 13 Apr 2004 00:27:55 -0400 Tue, 13 Apr 2004 00:27:55 -0400 Apr 13, 2004 Magnus Selhammar 0 Management that create a Framework http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 Sun, 04 Apr 2004 09:34:07 -0400 Sun, 04 Apr 2004 09:34:07 -0400 Sun, 04 Apr 2004 09:34:07 -0400 Apr 4, 2004 Frans Thamura 0 If it is Craig... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 Yes, it's sad that the JCP is going to slow down any new releases. But that's why new frameworks are always poping up to pioneer the way. As I see it, the job of the JCP is to watch and see where things are converging and to update standards...]]> Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:44:59 -0500 Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:44:59 -0500 Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:44:59 -0500 Mar 31, 2004 Valeri Sarantchouk 0 If it is Craig... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 Then he should have a leg or something tied to the Struts ball as well. :PCheers,Arron.Is it Craig? That's what I was wondering too when I saw the drawing. You know you've become a celebrity when you've got a cartoon...]]> Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:12:48 -0500 Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:12:48 -0500 Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:12:48 -0500 Mar 31, 2004 Doug Bateman 1 Talking about lock-in http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685
Say, if I create a fancy calendar UI component in JSF, it should be able to run on any compliant JSF implementation, you just have to package its tld and classes in the war file. That's the beauty of a spec... If current web...]]> Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:53:33 -0500 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:53:33 -0500 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:53:33 -0500 Mar 30, 2004 Henrique Steckelberg 0 Talking about lock-in http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 Say, if I create a fancy calendar UI component in JSF, it should be able to run on any compliant JSF implementation, you just have to package its tld and classes in the war file. That's the beauty of a spec... If current web frameworks became...]]> Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:06:52 -0500 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:06:52 -0500 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:06:52 -0500 Mar 30, 2004 Michael Ho 1 flash flash http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:05:07 -0500 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:05:07 -0500 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:05:07 -0500 Mar 30, 2004 Rich Kucera 0 Talking about lock-in http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 JSF IDEs is going to greatly help us to design web apps but how "portable" is my web application? If I use vendor specific UI components in their IDE, don't I become very much lock-in to that vendor? The WAR file should be able to...]]> Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:27:57 -0500 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:27:57 -0500 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:27:57 -0500 Mar 30, 2004 Henrique Steckelberg 2 Here is some bad news for java fans http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 Though many applications are deployed inside an intranet, public web sites based on asp.net have been increasing in adoption.

I think this may be a tad misleading. If ASPs and JSPs were on a par, then what we are looking at is ASP.NET...]]> Tue, 30 Mar 2004 02:56:20 -0500 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 02:56:20 -0500 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 02:56:20 -0500 Mar 30, 2004 Ray Offiah 0 Talking about lock-in http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:52:56 -0500 Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:52:56 -0500 Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:52:56 -0500 Mar 29, 2004 Michael Ho 3 SOFIA is Open Source http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 For sure... SOFIA from Salmon LLC is the best I've seen by far. This is exactly how a web application framework should be designed. Personally I don't consider spring, webwork, or struts web application frameworks... they're only...]]> Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:39:55 -0500 Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:39:55 -0500 Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:39:55 -0500 Mar 29, 2004 Dan Dubinsky 0 what to do? Work? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24685 Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:27:30 -0500 Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:27:30 -0500 Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:27:30 -0500 Mar 29, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 0