Support Forums: Message List - Atomikos Releases TransactionsJTA 1.30 http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Mon, 20 May 2013 15:03:26 -0400 Transactions http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877 Mark: I certainly wouldn't say that transactions are for every application domain, but in some domains the requirement for transactions is significant (and would represent a significant percentage).Transactions, yes. But (AFAIK) you...]]> Thu, 08 Apr 2004 10:16:52 -0400 Thu, 08 Apr 2004 10:16:52 -0400 Thu, 08 Apr 2004 10:16:52 -0400 Apr 8, 2004 Mark Little 0 Transactions http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877 I certainly wouldn't say that transactions are for every application domain, but in some domains the requirement for transactions is significant (and would represent a significant percentage).

Transactions, yes. But (AFAIK) you don't...]]> Thu, 08 Apr 2004 09:17:45 -0400 Thu, 08 Apr 2004 09:17:45 -0400 Thu, 08 Apr 2004 09:17:45 -0400 Apr 8, 2004 Cameron Purdy 1 Marketing strategies..... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877
<OTOH Most applications (95% or more, maybe 99% or more) don't even need a transaction manager, so $1 would be too much to spend in most cases, since it's not needed.Peace,Cameron Purdy
I think that's a little...]]> Thu, 08 Apr 2004 08:25:01 -0400 Thu, 08 Apr 2004 08:25:01 -0400 Thu, 08 Apr 2004 08:25:01 -0400 Apr 8, 2004 Mark Little 2 Marketing strategies..... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877 I don't want to get into a game of license price comparisons but keep in mind that the license price is one thing. Here is a reliable JTA with supportincluded.For JBoss, the closest comparison would be to also get productionsupport:For...]]> Thu, 08 Apr 2004 08:17:37 -0400 Thu, 08 Apr 2004 08:17:37 -0400 Thu, 08 Apr 2004 08:17:37 -0400 Apr 8, 2004 Mark Little 0 Open Source 'quality' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:27:22 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:27:22 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:27:22 -0400 Apr 7, 2004 Joel Van Hoolandt 0 not related to &quot;open source&quot; http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877 If you have high-value transactions or high-value data, JBoss or other
open source is just not an option.

The problem has nothing to do with "open source", and JBoss being open source has nothing to do with it. Open source...]]> Wed, 07 Apr 2004 11:08:16 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 11:08:16 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 11:08:16 -0400 Apr 7, 2004 Cameron Purdy 1 DAO is a patch instead of a pattern http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:52:13 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:52:13 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:52:13 -0400 Apr 7, 2004 frank zhu 0 Marketing strategies..... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877 included.

For JBoss, the closest comparison would be to also get...]]> Wed, 07 Apr 2004 09:28:17 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 09:28:17 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 09:28:17 -0400 Apr 7, 2004 Wout Steurs 3 Why use JTA http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877
Another reason to use JTA is for the Data Access Object (DAO) pattern.

As most of us know, this pattern is about encapsulating all JDBC inside a method on the DAO.
Without a JTA, this means you must also delimit the transactions and...]]> Wed, 07 Apr 2004 06:00:58 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 06:00:58 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 06:00:58 -0400 Apr 7, 2004 GuyPardon 1 TransactionsJTA offers a real secure transaction software http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877 True that it's a niche market...]]> Wed, 07 Apr 2004 05:28:34 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 05:28:34 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2004 05:28:34 -0400 Apr 7, 2004 Joel Van Hoolandt 0 Definition of Global Transaction http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877 Thanks for correction. Let me reiterate my point again: XA transactions involving more then one TM with required tx context propagation is usually overkill and can be (should be) in most cases designed around.

Regards,
 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 16:19:06 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 16:19:06 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 16:19:06 -0400 Apr 6, 2004 Nikita Ivanov 0 Marketing strategies..... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:01:10 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:01:10 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:01:10 -0400 Apr 6, 2004 Greg Pavlik 0 Marketing strategies..... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877 If your intention is to interact with more than one resource manager in a unit of work and you have strong requirements for data consistency, then you're probably going to use global transactions. I wouldn't hazard a guess as to what percentage...]]> Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:52:48 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:52:48 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:52:48 -0400 Apr 6, 2004 Cameron Purdy 0 Definition of Global Transaction http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877 I am a bit confused about your usage of global transaction term. Usually global XA transaction assumes context propagation (more then one TM involved in transaction)here is the definition of Global transaction in X/Open...]]> Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:11:55 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:11:55 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:11:55 -0400 Apr 6, 2004 Talip Ozturk 1 Marketing strategies..... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24877 I think that's a little strong and perhaps might mislead some folks.If your intention is to interact with more than one resource manager in a unit of work and you have strong requirements for data consistency, then you're probably going to...]]> Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:30:37 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:30:37 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:30:37 -0400 Apr 6, 2004 Nikita Ivanov 3