http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Mon, 20 May 2013 13:04:12 -0400 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323 Every time I see a Spring example, it looks like more XML hell. (...) Solutions that try to sweep this natural complexity under the 'external XML file' rug (CMP, and from what I can tell, Spring) just break encapsulation and make...]]> Tue, 27 Apr 2004 04:50:36 -0400 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 04:50:36 -0400 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 04:50:36 -0400 Apr 27, 2004 Juergen Hoeller 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323
Every time I see a Spring example, it looks like more XML hell. It seems to me that there is an irreductible amount of complexity involved in writing a business...]]> Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:55:01 -0400 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:55:01 -0400 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:55:01 -0400 Apr 22, 2004 Stanley Roupeir 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323 Well, I wonder what kind of developer is so underdeveloped that he can't understand he must not do a lookup of the resources he needs but they will be passed to his class by the context?Well, this might be true, if the...]]> Tue, 20 Apr 2004 09:13:38 -0400 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 09:13:38 -0400 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 09:13:38 -0400 Apr 20, 2004 Karl Banke 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323 Yes, we have Spring and Struts MVC versions of our JPetStore. We'd be interested to see a Tapestry version.What was the starting point for this implementation? Clinton's iBATIS JPetStore or the Spring jPetStore?Rgds,RodYes, I...]]> Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:07:12 -0400 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:07:12 -0400 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:07:12 -0400 Apr 20, 2004 John Mammen 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323
Thomas, thank you for the excellent introduction without I seriously doubt I would have ever got "hello" on the screen! Is perfect, written for a 7 year old as it should be :)

“My status, in this case, is...]]> Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:07:46 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:07:46 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:07:46 -0400 Apr 19, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323 Well that’s great but if I could have one single objection it would be just commons-logging (which has further depencies). Doesn't 1.4 has logging packages? The logging system seems quite complex to me, the only thing that distract in an...]]> Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:39:51 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:39:51 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:39:51 -0400 Apr 19, 2004 Juergen Hoeller 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323 Juergen: "For simple usage of Spring, all you need is spring.jar and commons-logging.jar"Well that’s great but if I could have one single objection it would be just commons-logging (which has further depencies)....]]> Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:21:45 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:21:45 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:21:45 -0400 Apr 19, 2004 Thomas Risberg 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323 "For simple usage of Spring, all you need is spring.jar and commons-logging.jar"

Well that’s great but if I could have one single objection it would be just commons-logging (which has further depencies). Doesn't 1.4...]]> Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:14:30 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:14:30 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:14:30 -0400 Apr 19, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323 Well, if I look at the spring documentation, it is like "Hey it can do a lot for you, but if you need decent transactional control, you need to bring your own JTA".Spring is an application framework, not a system...]]> Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:34:13 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:34:13 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:34:13 -0400 Apr 19, 2004 Juergen Hoeller 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323 Well, if I look at the spring documentation, it is like "Hey it can do a lot for you, but if you need decent transactional control, you need to bring your own JTA".N.b.: there is nothing strange with that sentence. It...]]> Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:07:45 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:07:45 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:07:45 -0400 Apr 19, 2004 Davide Baroncelli 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323
"Hey it can do a lot for you, but if you need decent transactional control, you need to bring your own JTA".

And "not reinventing the wheel" sounds nice, but if a...]]> Mon, 19 Apr 2004 06:12:27 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 06:12:27 -0400 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 06:12:27 -0400 Apr 19, 2004 Karl Banke 7 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:42:15 -0400 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:42:15 -0400 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:42:15 -0400 Apr 18, 2004 traceroute 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323 Im also very sad that you think that JCP is useless. If today you can play around with JSP/Servlet and J2EE API on multiple application servers, this is because these specifications exists. JSF, JDO and all new coming specs will contribute to...]]> Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:26:29 -0400 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:26:29 -0400 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:26:29 -0400 Apr 18, 2004 Davide Baroncelli 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323 Why not submitting it to the spring community itself? Spring already includes among the example apps the petstore implemented with two different mvc layers (I think), it would be great if the tapestry version could be...]]> Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:21:36 -0400 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:21:36 -0400 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:21:36 -0400 Apr 18, 2004 Rod Johnson 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25323 Yes, I will be posting it on java.net, project is called betterpetshopWhy not submitting it to the spring community itself? Spring already includes among the example apps the petstore implemented with two different mvc layers (I...]]> Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:08:44 -0400 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:08:44 -0400 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:08:44 -0400 Apr 18, 2004 Davide Baroncelli 2