http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sun, 19 May 2013 05:19:31 -0400 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522 Mon, 03 May 2004 20:53:42 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 20:53:42 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 20:53:42 -0400 May 3, 2004 Ted Neward 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522 Mon, 03 May 2004 11:59:51 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 11:59:51 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 11:59:51 -0400 May 3, 2004 me havename 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522 I find this explanation seriously lacking. To simply claim that "some fairly comment 'security tips' got published as a core article" is to claim that "mistakes were made" and "people were upset". This is a huge...]]> Mon, 03 May 2004 10:35:07 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 10:35:07 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 10:35:07 -0400 May 3, 2004 Joseph Ottinger 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522 Lots of issues here. Plagiarism is a serious charge; what ended up happening is that some fairly common "security tips" got published as a core article.I find this explanation seriously lacking. To simply claim that...]]> Mon, 03 May 2004 08:02:24 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 08:02:24 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 08:02:24 -0400 May 3, 2004 Ted Neward 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522
I don't know...]]> Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:28:37 -0400 Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:28:37 -0400 Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:28:37 -0400 Apr 30, 2004 Joseph Ottinger 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522
Regarding another post here about the JAXB article, those were my...]]> Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:26:30 -0400 Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:26:30 -0400 Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:26:30 -0400 Apr 29, 2004 me havename 5 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522
I think the author of the book should be notified and JDJ should immediately publish a retraction of the article.]]> Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:15:18 -0400 Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:15:18 -0400 Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:15:18 -0400 Apr 28, 2004 ABC DEF 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522
Vikram - You have given another (legal) angle to this article.
Now this is getting interesting.
Shall we say "reuse taken to next dimension" ...]]> Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:59:53 -0400 Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:59:53 -0400 Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:59:53 -0400 Apr 28, 2004 Srikanth Shenoy 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522
As a person who has had to deal with plagiarism of my own articles, I found the similarities between the first part of this article and the guidelines given by the authors of the book Securing Java in chapter 7 section 1 to be eerily...]]> Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:42:44 -0400 Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:42:44 -0400 Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:42:44 -0400 Apr 28, 2004 Vikram Goyal 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522 Perhaps the next step, instead of a rebuttal, is for one of us to write a 'real' Java Security paper to post here or send to the JDJ for publication. One that covers the right stuff. I'll have flip through Scott Oaks book and some of my...]]> Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:54:06 -0400 Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:54:06 -0400 Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:54:06 -0400 Apr 28, 2004 Joseph Ottinger 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522
Very good reply. I accept all of your points. I was just trying to point out in my rebuttal that it certainly doesn't hurt to do all those things in order to have as much "security" at every level as you can. I did get the...]]> Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:12:54 -0400 Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:12:54 -0400 Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:12:54 -0400 Apr 28, 2004 Mike Park 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522
I'm currently a subscriber to JDJ, but after this subscription expires I'm not likely to renew. The main reason is that I miss in-depth articles that teach me things I don't get elsewhere.

Back in 1988, when I was seriously...]]> Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:32:14 -0400 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:32:14 -0400 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:32:14 -0400 Apr 27, 2004 Christopher DeBracy 7 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522 Joseph,It's good to see someone who puts aside professional hurbris and admit they made a mistake. I think some folks at TSS should learn from this and drop the condescending, holier-than-thou zealotry I've been reading here for 4 years.(Yes,...]]> Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:34:18 -0400 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:34:18 -0400 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:34:18 -0400 Apr 27, 2004 Ted Neward 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522 I personally prefer depth, but changing a magazine's core format is not an exercise for the uncommitted.That said, I'm willing to do it if - and only if - it has meaningful reward. I'm afraid I don't have a lot of experience in publishing, so...]]> Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:30:25 -0400 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:30:25 -0400 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:30:25 -0400 Apr 27, 2004 Srikanth Shenoy 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25522
Again, be very careful. I appreciate your apology - no offense intended, none taken - but I'm neutral about whether JDJ is depth-first or breadth-first. I personally prefer depth, but changing a magazine's core format is...]]> Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:27:38 -0400 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:27:38 -0400 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:27:38 -0400 Apr 27, 2004 Joseph Ottinger 9