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Fri, 14 May 2004 06:11:35 -0400 Fri, 14 May 2004 06:11:35 -0400 Fri, 14 May 2004 06:11:35 -0400 May 14, 2004 vimarsh vasavada 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644 [...]
I wish vendors could just ship their source code
[...]I just wish vendors would not ship mickey-mouse, monolithic piece of crap "platforms". I don't need their source. These middleware vendors should take...]]> Tue, 11 May 2004 09:19:25 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 09:19:25 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 09:19:25 -0400 May 11, 2004 Rich Kucera 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644
jad XX.class
Parsing XX.class...The class file version is 48.0 (only 45.3 and 46.0 are supported)
JavaClassFileParseException: Class file version mismatch

I found one...]]> Tue, 11 May 2004 05:53:56 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 05:53:56 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 05:53:56 -0400 May 11, 2004 Jeremy Watson 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644 About the decompiling chapter:
The author did neither invent a new technique (instead he describes JAD, a tool that is quite self-describing) nor did he provide links that go beyond a mediocre google...]]> Mon, 10 May 2004 18:50:23 -0400 Mon, 10 May 2004 18:50:23 -0400 Mon, 10 May 2004 18:50:23 -0400 May 10, 2004 marc schoenefeld 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644 - "OSS derived from a source received from Sun"
- "KISS OSS" (it's a concept quite difficult to grasp, could you be...]]> Wed, 05 May 2004 08:08:43 -0400 Wed, 05 May 2004 08:08:43 -0400 Wed, 05 May 2004 08:08:43 -0400 May 5, 2004 Adrian Spinei 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644
I finally read the chapter, and the author really does say that Integer should be mutable, and the java community knows of no reason for it to be immutable. Well thats just rubbish.

The JDKs...]]> Tue, 04 May 2004 12:49:07 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 12:49:07 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 12:49:07 -0400 May 4, 2004 Stephen Colebourne 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644 1) Tomcat. They tried first to make their own but after a while throw it away to started anew with a copy of Java Web Server from Sun.
2) Hibernate. OR tools are completely commodized. What Gavin did was to "apply the principle of...]]> Tue, 04 May 2004 12:18:54 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 12:18:54 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 12:18:54 -0400 May 4, 2004 Ryan Breidenbach 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644
2) Hibernate. OR tools are completely commodized. What Gavin did was to "apply the principle of...]]> Tue, 04 May 2004 11:15:10 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 11:15:10 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 11:15:10 -0400 May 4, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644
I guess we need to agree on what "stealing" is. Do you mean implementing similar features or do you mean decompiling the class files and ripping off source code? The former is not stealing.

In either case, I would be curious...]]> Tue, 04 May 2004 09:27:53 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 09:27:53 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 09:27:53 -0400 May 4, 2004 Ryan Breidenbach 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644 "I think that your personal situation colors your view of the section of humanity that works on open source"

You may have a point there. The situation is quite different than under the Web bubble. At this time there was an...]]> Tue, 04 May 2004 04:36:47 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 04:36:47 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 04:36:47 -0400 May 4, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644 The answer is: People take the code home from work and keep it when they switch job.Odd world you live in Rolf. I have been in this business for some time working with a lot of different developers and companies and I can safely...]]> Tue, 04 May 2004 04:05:44 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 04:05:44 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 04:05:44 -0400 May 4, 2004 Robert Boothby 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644
the proprietary source is not usually available for inspection

The problem here in TSS many times is that you don not know if someone is just naive or a bonafide hypocrite. Well I assume the former so my advice is, try to read...]]> Tue, 04 May 2004 02:53:41 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 02:53:41 -0400 Tue, 04 May 2004 02:53:41 -0400 May 4, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644 "To whom are you referring? What OS projects were developed from stolen code?"

Ryan, I am referring **ALL** Open Source projects of some substance (dismissing small projects like xDoclets).

So I will put it the other way...]]> Mon, 03 May 2004 22:34:13 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 22:34:13 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 22:34:13 -0400 May 3, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644 Mon, 03 May 2004 17:09:33 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 17:09:33 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 17:09:33 -0400 May 3, 2004 Jeff Wang 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25644
I am the author of Covert Java and even though I saw some bashing in this forum I am glad that the chapter has generated such interest. A lot of the questions and comments that were made here (most of them valid) are actually covered in the...]]> Mon, 03 May 2004 13:36:04 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 13:36:04 -0400 Mon, 03 May 2004 13:36:04 -0400 May 3, 2004 Alex Kalinovsky 1