Support Forums: Message List - JDO 2 Ballot Results: Concerns from IBM, BEA, and Oracle http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Thu, 23 May 2013 10:13:12 -0400 Object and Relational don't compete http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695
Regarding your point:
Oracle: JDO promote Object Databases. What are you crazy? We don't do Object Database.

I don't think that this discussion relates to ODBMS versus RDBMS, each is appropriate for...]]> Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:16:46 -0500 Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:16:46 -0500 Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:16:46 -0500 Dec 24, 2004 Cedric Rouvrais 0 Hibernate is just Hype-rnate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695 Not impressed. JDO is far ahead in usability and stability.
Just because there is a Hibernate hype does not make it good.
Hans]]> Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:45:03 -0400 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:45:03 -0400 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:45:03 -0400 Sep 16, 2004 Hans Marggraff 0 I don't know what is JDO..... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:01:24 -0400 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:01:24 -0400 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:01:24 -0400 Aug 27, 2004 Yimin Shi 0 Polymorphism and EJBs http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695
One example I like is Accounts Receivable. Transactions can often be subtyped as to Invoice, Payment, and then special...]]> Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:53:36 -0400 Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:53:36 -0400 Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:53:36 -0400 Jun 25, 2004 Thomas Whitmore 0 DAO design pattern isn't http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695
Holy moses, why do I have to seperate my business logic/application logic >>when the only logical place is in the damn CMP beans?

It's for entity bean re-use accross applications or...]]> Wed, 19 May 2004 10:43:23 -0400 Wed, 19 May 2004 10:43:23 -0400 Wed, 19 May 2004 10:43:23 -0400 May 19, 2004 Andy Stefancik 0 EJB 3.0 at TSS Symposium, Las Vegas http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695 new persistence capabilities are available, JDO applications...]]> Sat, 08 May 2004 20:34:01 -0400 Sat, 08 May 2004 20:34:01 -0400 Sat, 08 May 2004 20:34:01 -0400 May 8, 2004 Robin Roos 0 EJB 3.0 at TSS Symposium, Las Vegas http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695 Today JDO implementations address all key ORM issues not covered by the JDO 1.0 spec with vendor extensions.Well, that's my problem, and I need to go with a 800 lb gorilla type of a vendor if I decide to use proprietary...]]> Fri, 07 May 2004 13:33:56 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 13:33:56 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 13:33:56 -0400 May 7, 2004 Eric Ma 1 EJB 3.0 at TSS Symposium, Las Vegas http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695 .. any object persistence solution needs to address all key ORM issues, like what Hibernate does today. Any extra stuff JDO 2.0 adds then is icing on the cake.Today JDO implementations address all key ORM issues not...]]> Fri, 07 May 2004 11:03:54 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 11:03:54 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 11:03:54 -0400 May 7, 2004 David Tinker 2 EJB 3.0 at TSS Symposium, Las Vegas http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695 Can you define this "Hibernate-style ORM" for which you yearn?I saw you and others already have a lively discussion with Christian Bauer of the Hibernate team going in another thread. Don't want to repeat what have...]]> Fri, 07 May 2004 10:47:02 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 10:47:02 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 10:47:02 -0400 May 7, 2004 Eric Ma 3 EJB 3.0 at TSS Symposium, Las Vegas http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695 Also as long as we have this EJB/JDO split/uncertainty in JCP, developers like myself will continue to use Hibernate and shun EJB and JDO until Hibernate-style ORM ends up in one of the specs.Can you define this...]]> Fri, 07 May 2004 10:19:18 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 10:19:18 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 10:19:18 -0400 May 7, 2004 Robin Roos 4 EJB 3.0 at TSS Symposium, Las Vegas http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695 The JDO 2.0 spec will be out long before EJB 3.0 is out.That's fine. JDO 1.0 also came a few months earlier than EJB 2.0, if my memory serves me right and it did not do JDO 1.0 any good, did it? I agree EJB 3.0 is still...]]> Fri, 07 May 2004 09:57:30 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 09:57:30 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 09:57:30 -0400 May 7, 2004 Eric Ma 5 EJB 3.0 at TSS Symposium, Las Vegas http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695 Well, maybe the only chance for JDO 2.0 to make it big is the fact that EJB 3.0 still insists on EJB 1.x/2.x support, and developers will choose light-weight containers with JDO-type persistence rather than EJB.The JDO 2.0...]]> Fri, 07 May 2004 09:31:48 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 09:31:48 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 09:31:48 -0400 May 7, 2004 David Tinker 6 EJB 3.0 at TSS Symposium, Las Vegas http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695 Fri, 07 May 2004 08:49:54 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 08:49:54 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 08:49:54 -0400 May 7, 2004 Eric Ma 7 Comparing SDO to Detachment in JDO 2.0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695
I'm sorry this took a while, but I needed to do some background research before being confident to write the commentary. I've now looked into SDO (JSR-235) and below I present my comparison of its...]]> Fri, 07 May 2004 03:23:18 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 03:23:18 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 03:23:18 -0400 May 7, 2004 Robin Roos 0 Transparent Persistence not in EJB? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25695 My definition and I would say "the normal one" of Transparent Persistence Fri, 07 May 2004 02:51:15 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 02:51:15 -0400 Fri, 07 May 2004 02:51:15 -0400 May 7, 2004 G Hermitage 0