Support Forums: Message List - JCP Watch: JSP 2.1, JDK 1.5, Web Services Metadata http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Mon, 20 May 2013 07:48:10 -0400 Re: and things get more divided... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855
2. My complaints about...]]> Wed, 12 May 2004 13:42:31 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 13:42:31 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 13:42:31 -0400 May 12, 2004 Dan Greening 0 Re: and things get more divided... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855 You can think of it as the next iteration of the JSP 2.0 EL. And, the syntax is pretty much the same (you just use "#" instead of "$"). So, JSP 2.1 is about giving pure JSP the same features, and separating out the EL into...]]> Wed, 12 May 2004 11:34:38 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 11:34:38 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 11:34:38 -0400 May 12, 2004 Fernando Racca 1 Re: and things get more divided... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855 Wed, 12 May 2004 11:27:15 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 11:27:15 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 11:27:15 -0400 May 12, 2004 Makan Time 0 Re: and things get more divided... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855 So Sun admits they pushed JSF 1.0 to market in an incomplete and inconsistent state by stating the EL in it will be abandoned in the next MINOR release in favour of an enhanced version of the EL currently in JSP 2.0.What they should of course...]]> Wed, 12 May 2004 10:11:25 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 10:11:25 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 10:11:25 -0400 May 12, 2004 Kito Mann 3 and things get more divided... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855 JSF and JSP are complementary technologies, not competing, just as are JSP and servlets.I don't think that Sun sees it that way. Why otherwise you would adapt JSP to accomodate JSF needs?

JSP must have a straightforward,...]]> Wed, 12 May 2004 08:26:11 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 08:26:11 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 08:26:11 -0400 May 12, 2004 Fernando Racca 0 and things get more divided... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855
What they should of course...]]> Wed, 12 May 2004 05:56:11 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 05:56:11 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 05:56:11 -0400 May 12, 2004 Jeroen Wenting 5 J2EE Web Layer http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855 Wed, 12 May 2004 05:41:27 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 05:41:27 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 05:41:27 -0400 May 12, 2004 Phil Borg 0 JSP VS JSF http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855 Wed, 12 May 2004 01:44:12 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 01:44:12 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 01:44:12 -0400 May 12, 2004 Omar Abu-jiab 1 Transitioning JSP versions http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855 The learning curve for JSP 2.0 EL is much lower than JSTL <c:out> and all that stuff.Agreed with one caveat. <c:out> is still required as the working group could not agree on escaping rules for body ${epressions}. I...]]> Wed, 12 May 2004 01:17:58 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 01:17:58 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 01:17:58 -0400 May 12, 2004 Matthias Ernst 0 JCP Watch: JSP 2.1, JDK 1.5, Web Services Metadata http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855 Wed, 12 May 2004 00:29:40 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 00:29:40 -0400 Wed, 12 May 2004 00:29:40 -0400 May 12, 2004 Brian Miller 0 How about... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855
With backward compatibility, of course!

Tom]]> Tue, 11 May 2004 21:18:17 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 21:18:17 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 21:18:17 -0400 May 11, 2004 Tom Davies 0 Transitioning JSP versions http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855 I couldn't believe JSF had to reimplement an EL (and, although this is off-topic) how poorly implemented JSF 1.0 was. We made the terrible mistake of trying a project with JSF 1.0.And JSP is being modified to support...]]> Tue, 11 May 2004 19:09:40 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 19:09:40 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 19:09:40 -0400 May 11, 2004 Fernando Racca 0 Transitioning JSP versions http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855
I couldn't...]]> Tue, 11 May 2004 18:31:15 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 18:31:15 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 18:31:15 -0400 May 11, 2004 Dan Greening 2 Consider the alternative http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855
The problem is that this will be implemented by J2EE 1.5, while most application servers still don't support J2EE 1.4.

So i won't consider Faces until it is consistent. take a look at this.


JSF 1.2 -...]]> Tue, 11 May 2004 17:07:56 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 17:07:56 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 17:07:56 -0400 May 11, 2004 Fernando Racca 2 Consider the alternative http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25855 Tue, 11 May 2004 16:38:21 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 16:38:21 -0400 Tue, 11 May 2004 16:38:21 -0400 May 11, 2004 Joseph Ottinger 3