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"The underground roads
Are, as the dead prefer them,
Always tortuous."

"When he looked the cave in the eye,
Hercules
Had a moment of doubt."

"Leaning out over
The dreadful...]]> Mon, 15 Aug 2005 10:48:57 -0400 Mon, 15 Aug 2005 10:48:57 -0400 Mon, 15 Aug 2005 10:48:57 -0400 Aug 15, 2005 john walton 0 No Comment http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375 the right way, the correct way, and the only
way, it does not exist."

Friedrich Nietzsche]]> Thu, 12 May 2005 02:44:55 -0400 Thu, 12 May 2005 02:44:55 -0400 Thu, 12 May 2005 02:44:55 -0400 May 12, 2005 Leon Sandler 1 IBM J2EE vs. Microsoft .NET White Paper http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375 <!--There really aren't that many (not compared to java) and nothing open source that is production ready and is comparable to Hibernate. (if you of one, please share) -->Mark try the link below you will find many O/R tools and...]]> Thu, 10 Jun 2004 07:57:32 -0400 Thu, 10 Jun 2004 07:57:32 -0400 Thu, 10 Jun 2004 07:57:32 -0400 Jun 10, 2004 Mark N 0 IBM J2EE vs. Microsoft .NET White Paper http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375
Mark try the link below you will find many O/R tools and...]]> Wed, 09 Jun 2004 21:33:42 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 21:33:42 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 21:33:42 -0400 Jun 9, 2004 Rashid Jilani 1 IBM J2EE vs. Microsoft .NET White Paper http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375 I'm wondering about what you mean by "wrong".I am forced to agree that if you want to crank out a small scale 1 or 2 tier solution it's hard to beat the .NET tools. In about an hour I can crank out a modestly complex data driven...]]> Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:34:42 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:34:42 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:34:42 -0400 Jun 9, 2004 Mark N 0 IBM J2EE vs. Microsoft .NET White Paper http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375 The biggest mistake I made when I first tried a .NET solution was to apply my J2EE know how to the .NET tools. You have to understand that when you choose .NET you have also chosen to use MS mandated architecture. If you try to force a J2EE...]]> Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:23:01 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:23:01 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:23:01 -0400 Jun 9, 2004 Marlon Smith 0 IBM J2EE vs. Microsoft .NET White Paper http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375
I am forced to agree that if you want to crank out a small scale 1 or 2 tier solution it's hard to beat the .NET tools. In about an hour I can crank out a modestly complex data driven app by...]]> Wed, 09 Jun 2004 15:37:02 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 15:37:02 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 15:37:02 -0400 Jun 9, 2004 Matt Osminer 2 a better white paper (unbiased) -- look here! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375 This paper is a bit dated. It was written over 2 years ago. Some of the assertions regarding J2EE limitations are no longer true. J2EE 1.4 includes first class support for Web Services.I just realized my comment is unclear. I am...]]> Wed, 09 Jun 2004 11:41:51 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 11:41:51 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 11:41:51 -0400 Jun 9, 2004 Tom Mitchell 0 a better white paper (unbiased) -- look here! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 11:38:00 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 11:38:00 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 11:38:00 -0400 Jun 9, 2004 Tom Mitchell 1 IBM J2EE vs. Microsoft .NET White Paper http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375 http://www.artima.com/forums/flat.jsp?forum=106&thread=51769]]> Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:37:39 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:37:39 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:37:39 -0400 Jun 9, 2004 Mark N 0 IBM J2EE vs. Microsoft .NET White Paper http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375 <!-- Have you tried the latest open source ORM tools like hibernate? It seems alot easier to use hibernate than to pound out a bunch of DAOs in .NET. -->Timothy your argument is valid but in case of enterprise applications where you...]]> Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:17:35 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:17:35 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:17:35 -0400 Jun 9, 2004 Mark N 6 Perhaps there's a bigger point to be made from all this. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375
1. IBM can send battalions of consultants from their 250,000 man army and tell managers to "sign the...]]> Wed, 09 Jun 2004 02:23:26 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 02:23:26 -0400 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 02:23:26 -0400 Jun 9, 2004 N. Alex Rupp 0 IBM J2EE vs. Microsoft .NET White Paper http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375
Timothy your argument is valid but in case of enterprise applications where you care...]]> Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:50:04 -0400 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:50:04 -0400 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:50:04 -0400 Jun 8, 2004 Rashid Jilani 7 IBM J2EE vs. Microsoft .NET White Paper http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375
Timothy your argument is valid but in case of enterprise applications where you care...]]> Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:44:16 -0400 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:44:16 -0400 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:44:16 -0400 Jun 8, 2004 Rashid Jilani 0 A different lock-in persective http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=26375
Note: In case I come across as a PHB: I have worked for near ten years in the trenches writing code and leading development teams. I understand the technology and the value of independence, loose coupling, standard APIs and...]]> Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:16:02 -0400 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:16:02 -0400 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:16:02 -0400 Jun 8, 2004 Mark N 0