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        <title>Relax guys .Net is hundreds times more crap than even core J2EE</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Sure Sun has made a lot of mistakes in J2EE. But Open Source Community resolved them in such frameworks as Spring, Hibernate and many others. <br>But in J2EE architecture you are not bound to the any old crap and any platform, while Microsoft has bound...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 06:31:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 06:31:55 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 30, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mykola Paliyenko</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Microsoft Malaria</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[linux and the BSD clones are the future.<br>&nbsp;the future is here, right now, and its been here since circa 1997.<br>&nbsp;anybody who's a serious developer understands what linux IS.<br>&nbsp;its along the lines of promethean...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:20:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:20:50 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:20:50 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 12, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Free Software</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>It is cool to be different: I like CMP</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>...(should we introduce &quot;crap&quot; as a new hip term?)... </blockquote>Yes, that'd be &lt;em&gt;C&lt;/em&gt;reate &lt;em&gt;R&lt;/em&gt;ead &lt;em&gt;A&lt;/em&gt;pply &lt;em&gt;P&lt;/em&gt;urge.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2004 22:25:03 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2004 22:25:03 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2004 22:25:03 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 2, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Murphree</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Nice talking</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The only thing most of the so called Linux Expert Admirers community seams to notice about mr de Icaza is that he is somewhat rogue. He is not a very nice fellow, he leads the development of some weird microsoftish and devilish crap :o) in the holly land...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2004 18:32:26 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2004 18:32:26 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 2, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>victor vatamanescu</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Opinion: Is J2EE Academic Crap?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[mmmm... maybe it is. Since he is an university drop-out ;-)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:08:19 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:08:19 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:08:19 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 27, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Star Trooper</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>'.NET runs on Windows only' is not true anymore</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Web apps are on their way out.  The big guys (MS, IBM, [even] Sun, etc) are beginning to either realize or show that for, probably differing reasons, web apps are not what they are chalked up to be.   User experience is typically...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:18:06 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:18:06 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:18:06 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 26, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Jouravlev</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Community: Leaked MS Memo: The Danger of Sharing</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Wow, so if Open Standards is a superior product at a superior cost, we should stop competition?Like, lets not use assembly line to make cars, but we should hand build it; this will make a lot more people employed and would need lots of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:11:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:11:24 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 26, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Jouravlev</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Not so scary</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[All traditional industries have suffered big changes on their core business due to changes everywhere on their business environment/market.<br><br>Why software shouldn't?<br><br>Now cheap hardware is just a commonality, most common software will follow....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:09:30 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:09:30 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:09:30 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 26, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Josep Blazquez</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>'.NET runs on Windows only' is not true anymore</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I know about the Longhorn stuff, so I agree with the XAML and smart client part of your comment, as for the &quot;more Windows platform lockin&quot;, that's your hypothesis (and you're entitled to have it, of course).</blockquote>By vendor...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:50:19 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 26, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Community: Leaked MS Memo: The Danger of Sharing</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Wow, so if Open Standards is a superior product at a superior cost, we should stop competition?<br><br>Like, lets not use assembly line to make cars, but we should hand build it; this will make a lot more people employed and would need lots of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:31:19 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:31:19 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 26, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Vic Cekvenich</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Java would not exist but for Microsoft</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>It is amazing what claims people will believe in.Java is not Sun's invention. The Zeitgeist, the time was ripe for a simplification of C++ it could just as well been any of another dozen candidates that the international web-community took up...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 05:19:07 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 26, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dorel Vaida</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>playing dirty</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Scary .. we might agree on something.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:43:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:43:10 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:43:10 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>playing dirty</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I knew you would say that Cameron and you are quite right too, IMO. <br>They are birds of the same feather.<br><br>Regards<br>Rolf Tollerud]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2004 18:36:28 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2004 18:36:28 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Shared? Open Source? Why not it call it by its real name</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Because dumping is illegal and donating to Open Source is a way to circumvent this obstacle.</blockquote>.. because dumping is illegal but bundling with a monopoly operating system is a way to circumvent this...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2004 18:09:08 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Shared? Open Source? Why not it call it by its real name</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27503</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Most patetique of all is the claim that Linux is a product from Linus Thorvaldsson + Open Source individuals around the world working idealistic in their spare time. Linux is a product from IBM, without Linux would be the equivalent of a bicycle. (IBM...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:07:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:07:01 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:07:01 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 25, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
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