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        <title>Java always better than .Net</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Lets do a Cobol/Java webservices benchmark then :-)</blockquote>That's possible. Micro Focus (www.microfocus.com) enables you to expose your cobol programs as web-services. But..... as they are very close with Microsoft lately, I doubt if...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 06:13:09 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 06:13:09 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 9, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Truus VlugInDeWind</jf:author>
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        <title>5 Nine's Reliability?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&#x93;top quality servers?&#x94;<br><br>Are you saying that for instance Weblogic has a better uptime statistic than Spring/Tomcat?<br><br>&quot;my personal web site runs on an Intel box&quot;<br><br>Does your personal server site run with cluster and...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 22:12:54 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 22:12:54 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
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        <title>Not so fast....</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Both Java and .NET have technologies for distributed systems that are faster than Web Services.  But, those are technology specific implementations and so we lose interoperability and then we're right back where we started.<br><br>So, in an interoperable...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 14:32:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 14:32:02 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Ballard</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>back to the future</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I had thought that my mission was over here in TSS but I understand that I have to every other month or so to remind you that,In this tread we are discussing the latest test from Sun with <u>Tomcat</u> T-o-m-c-a-t. </blockquote>Should I...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 12:30:20 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 12:30:20 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henrique Steckelberg</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Benchmarks don't measure 5 Nine's Reliability</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Benchmarks don't measure 5 Nine's Reliability.<br>ECC memory on the server is just the first step on the Big Iron systems.<br>Also, soft error protection on the paths to and from the CPU are also a part of the design.<br><br>A Performance/Cost metric...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 11:17:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 11:17:31 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Dever</jf:author>
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        <title>great fun</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>If performance is critical, the first thing I would do is dump XML/SOAP and use something better. </blockquote>Precisely!</blockquote>Me three!<br><br>If one is using web services they are probably using them to communicate to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 11:10:08 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 11:10:08 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Benchmarks don't measure 5 Nine's Reliability</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Benchmarks don't measure 5 Nine's Reliability.<br>ECC memory on the server is just the first step on the Big Iron systems.<br>Also, soft error protection on the paths to and from the CPU are also a part of the design.<br><br>A Performance/Cost metric...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 10:35:29 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Dever</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>The Problem with .NET Generics</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=7930" target="_blank">http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=7930</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 23:36:49 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 23:36:49 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jamie Schiner</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>AXIS?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>How does this compare with AXIS?</blockquote>Axis is better than the older apache SOAP driver. Axis still uses xerces, so the performance is equivalent to xerces. Dennis Sosnoski has plenty of benchmarks comparing xml parsers. the last time I...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 19:39:52 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 19:39:52 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
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        <title>AXIS?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[How does this compare with AXIS?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 18:09:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 18:09:50 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Marc Boorshtein</jf:author>
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        <title>not sure where you heard that</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Cameron,<br><br>Not sure where you heard that, but its simply not the case.  As the Middleware report indicates the final shipping version of .NET 1.1 and Windows Server 2003 was used for the Middleware J2EE/.NET app server shootout released one year...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:23:49 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:23:49 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Greg Leake</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>great fun</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>If performance is critical, the first thing I would do is dump XML/SOAP and use something better. </blockquote>Precisely!]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:22:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:22:12 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Konstantin Ignatyev</jf:author>
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        <title>a reminder</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I had thought that my mission was over here in TSS but I understand that I have to every other month or so to remind you that,<br><br>In this tread we are discussing the latest test from Sun with <u>Tomcat</u> <br>T-o-m-c-a-t. <br><br>Nobody wants to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:20:19 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:20:19 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>great fun</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I don't know about others, but I find this webservices shoot out funny. Let's get real here. If performance is critical, the first thing I would do is dump XML/SOAP and use something better. It doesn't matter which stack you use, since parsing XML hogs...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 14:36:56 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Some comments on Sun response -- from Microsoft</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27801</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Interesting to see you tested with a newer beta version of JWSDP (1.5 beta 2) whereas in your original tests you used shipping code. We tested with all shipping product (.NET 1.1.). Why did you decide to use beta product for the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 13:54:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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