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        <title>Rumor-mongering</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Here's the official on Nielsen:<br><br><a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/e/040823/beas8-k.html" target="_blank">http://biz.yahoo.com/e/040823/beas8-k.html</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:32:44 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:32:44 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 23, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>traceroute</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>what brain drain?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I've heard this from CEO's coming out of Engineering, Manufacturing and Finance as well. Doesn't matter what sector. For companies that use a direct model such as Dell then Marketing is the key. All departments are important and can't be replaced but...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:59:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:59:21 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 12, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>traceroute</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>what brain drain?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[One note for clarity: David Bau was a member of the &quot;brain trust&quot; for BEA, as he would be for any organization.  He has a rare combination of vision, initiative, and technical chops.  I'm using a piece of his software to write this response, as...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:24:00 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:24:00 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 11, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Angela Yochem</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Rumors: BEA Brain Drain</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Um, that's sort of an ignorant comment, because if top management starts to leave or has a high turnout rate, this means their sales will suffer. They may already have a customer base they can feed off of, but it will hurt long term sales &amp; growth....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:50:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:50:33 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:50:33 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 10, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Martin N.</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>crappy App server ???</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Take a look at orion server, if you do something bette, do it !<br><br>/Joel]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 02:36:18 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 02:36:18 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 10, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joel Cordonnier</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Dope dealers.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Well, would you rather trust your data to your internal employees who are your at will employees and can go as they please or to a large corp you have contracted to house it with legal recourse if things go wrong?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 12:48:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 12:48:38 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 12:48:38 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 9, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>traceroute</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Dope dealers.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The trend in the large pharmaceutical companies is to outsource the entire data center.</blockquote>Which inference below is correct?<br><br>a) Pharmaceutical data is unimportant.<br><br>-or-<br><br>b) Data outsourcing is safe and secure.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 11:29:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 9, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Brian Miller</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Acquisition by oracle?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Sad to see BEA suffering. It has been the technology leader and would be sad to see it in decline. Maybe, one of the big players (HP, Oracle), would acquire it.<br>It would be nice if Oracle acquires it and dumps their crappy app server.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 07:03:40 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 07:03:40 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 07:03:40 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 9, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Kalyan Kolachala</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Seems - deals are going bad in BEA</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Is BEA suffering a major brain drain at the executive levels? ...</blockquote>Quotes dropped twice since May 2004 - from 12 to just 6. IMHO, it's enough evidence of how deals are going on in this company.<br><br><a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 05:02:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 05:02:10 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 9, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Skorik</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>First Sun, then Bea, then IBM</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Like your deep reverence for this poor company called Microsoft. Hypocrisy sucks!]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 21:29:03 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 21:29:03 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 7, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>B B</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>The good people are leaving first, as usual</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&quot;Gossip is what makes up the life and nerve of a column.&quot; <br><br>Are you serious ???<br><br>&quot;The good people are leaving first, as usual&quot;<br><br>Damm, does this means that we will be stuck with you (Rolf Toollerud) on TheServerSide...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 18:15:29 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 18:15:29 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 7, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jos Deuling</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>First Sun, then Bea, then IBM</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Wrong. Outsourcing is growing. Companies want to get further and further away from IT. The trend in the large pharmaceutical companies is to outsource the entire data center. Third party providers such as AT&amp;T are now handling most of the IT for...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 14:47:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 14:47:57 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 7, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>traceroute</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>First Sun, then Bea, then IBM</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[One billion dollar == One small IBM consulting contract.<br><br>Sooner or later the shareholders of big companies will realize what incredible money-wasting the middle management and CTOs are doing. Cheap clusters of Linux and/or Windows with the right...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 02:50:42 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 02:50:42 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 7, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>None of them</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[hehe Rolf is dreaming with M$ payroll .Net must suck that is  why you hang out here.<br>BEA is solid compnay and Weblogic server is one of the best app server.<br>No wonder Best Buy dumped .Not and are now running J2EE eCommerce site.<br>.Not is is buggy...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 22:30:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jamie Schiner</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>gossip?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=27866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Rolf -<blockquote>Sun and Bea is in the same situation.<br><br>1) No viable business idea (selling Elephant servers and Big Iron?)<br>2) Revenue is down.<br>3) Their stock is falling.<br>4) The good people are leaving first, as usual.</blockquote>Since...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 22:16:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 22:16:50 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>5</jf:replyCount>
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