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        <title>XA for guaranteed delivery</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28445</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Thus if you post an update notification message you are not updating the systems overal logical state - you are merely making use of a reliable delivery mechanism.</blockquote>Just to clarify my own reply: I think part of the confusion is...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2004 05:19:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 16, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Campbell</jf:author>
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        <title>XA for guaranteed delivery</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Actually when you are sending a message with a quaranty delivery settings you do update, because message gets saved in persistent storage on the JMS server.</blockquote>Sorry but you are confusing function with implementation. The jms server...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2004 04:57:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2004 04:57:55 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:author>Paul Campbell</jf:author>
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        <title>EJB and LDAP transaction</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28445</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[In a recent project we needed to update our own Oracle DB within our WebLogic 8.1 server, a remote WebLogic server and Sun's LDAP Directory Server. The latter is non-transactional, and even though it is the last participant, the heuristics are flaky....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:55:25 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:55:25 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 8, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andre Mesarovic</jf:author>
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        <title>We have issue with Tx timeouts with XA enabled</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28445</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>We are using XA tx with Oracle, Websphere MQ on Weblogic app server and we are running into Tx timeouts and resource issues. Even if we set Tx timeoout to 6 minutes which is way too high.Do you have any suggestions?</blockquote>That's not...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:26:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:26:34 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 8, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Guglielmo Lichtner</jf:author>
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        <title>We have issue with Tx timeouts with XA enabled</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28445</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[We are using XA tx with Oracle, Websphere MQ on Weblogic app server and we are running into Tx timeouts and resource issues. Even if we set Tx timeoout to 6 minutes which is way too high.<br><br>Do you have any suggestions?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 12:32:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 12:32:36 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 8, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alka Shukla</jf:author>
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        <title>XA for guaranteed delivery</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28445</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The problem arises because people use a XAT to guarantee delivery when the message is *not* actually performing an update (e.g. when it is used to trigger reference data cache flushes). This is fundamentally the wrong tool for the job and...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:02:16 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:02:16 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 7, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Giedrius Trumpickas</jf:author>
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        <title>XA for guaranteed delivery</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[&quot;Most such systems use JMS and if you aren't using XA then you aren't guaranteeing message receipt&quot;<br><br>I thing this is the root of the problem that many people are having. I can only imagine that the term &quot;read only&quot; did not...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2004 04:25:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2004 04:25:27 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 7, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Campbell</jf:author>
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        <title>JMS</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28445</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Academic? It's hardly academic. When you have two transactional resources that are in the same transaction, is it worth it to you to have them stay in sync?</blockquote>Academic in the solution, using XA resources is the easiest...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:44:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:44:02 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Emmanuel Bernard</jf:author>
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        <title>Like Rod Johnson Gavin seems to forget JMS.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28445</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I didn't know MDBs had a bad rap, but if so that's too bad, more of ignorance I guess, because as you say they are very useful for just this sort of thing.  There seems to be quite a bit of disinformation out there (I'm surprised by whether anyone would...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2004 23:26:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2004 23:26:36 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael O'Keefe</jf:author>
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        <title>doing without XA</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28445</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I am not very familiar with applications servers too, but I found I need to know any tool including tool implementation if I use it. All tools promise to help monkeys, but I am sure monkey can not use Hibernate too. I like open code for this reason, as...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:49:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:49:33 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Juozas Baliuka</jf:author>
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        <title>doing without XA</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[We can talk all day about &quot;what if I do this, etc, etc&quot; but isn't one of the value proposition of an app server to insulate a regular monkey from knowing all these details that could have been done with XA. Otherwise all these people could also...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:16:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:16:57 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Makan Time</jf:author>
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        <title>JMS</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28445</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[BTW, XA is more common in homepages with single database than in &quot;complex&quot; systems, is not it ? :)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2004 02:29:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2004 02:29:57 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Juozas Baliuka</jf:author>
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        <title>JMS</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28445</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>MyApp -&gt; write -&gt; commit -&gt; send message;</blockquote>And what happens if:1. The server dies before it sends the message2. The MOM is down when the server tries to send the messageEither way, the write was done but the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2004 02:14:20 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2004 02:14:20 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Juozas Baliuka</jf:author>
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        <title>doing without XA</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>MyApp -&gt; write -&gt; commit -&gt; send message;</blockquote>And what happens if:1. The server dies before it sends the message2. The MOM is down when the server tries to send the messageEither way, the write was done but the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2004 01:26:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 5, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gavin King</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>JMS</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28445</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>MyApp -&gt; write -&gt; commit -&gt; send message;</blockquote>And what happens if:<br><br>1. The server dies before it sends the message<br>2. The MOM is down when the server tries to send the message<br><br>Either way, the write was done...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2004 22:20:39 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2004 22:20:39 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2004 22:20:39 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Sep 4, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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