http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 25 May 2013 01:32:22 -0400 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560 http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/1004334.html]]> Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:10:09 -0400 Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:10:09 -0400 Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:10:09 -0400 Sep 12, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560 Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:02:17 -0400 Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:02:17 -0400 Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:02:17 -0400 Sep 12, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560 "they want no part of the leviathan who would usurp their revenues"

No, they want their own OS so they can keep the prices up to 2-3 times more than otherwise.

"But, keep the Java community...]]> Sun, 12 Sep 2004 01:28:05 -0400 Sun, 12 Sep 2004 01:28:05 -0400 Sun, 12 Sep 2004 01:28:05 -0400 Sep 12, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560
 The wireless companies - Verizon, et al. - have smelled the MS infection; and, they want no part of the leviathan who would usurp their revenues.

 But, keep the Java community informed.

 Like the Tao Te...]]> Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:33:01 -0400 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:33:01 -0400 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:33:01 -0400 Sep 11, 2004 Fred Ruopp 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560 "Motorola is heavily subsidised by the department of defence"
Am I not to have any illusions left.

Please.. :(]]> Fri, 10 Sep 2004 05:38:49 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 05:38:49 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 05:38:49 -0400 Sep 10, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560 Both companies success depended only of the rather special situation in their countries when they started. (phone state monopoly, homogenous population) that wouldn't stand the light of any anti-trust-monopoly investigation.Ultimately it is...]]> Fri, 10 Sep 2004 04:10:12 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 04:10:12 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 04:10:12 -0400 Sep 10, 2004 Karl Banke 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560
Neither do I believe in Ericsson any more than Nokia. Both companies success depended only of the rather special situation in their countries when they started....]]> Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:38:15 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:38:15 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:38:15 -0400 Sep 10, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560 I have never bought my phone from any operator! Anyhow I think the operator has no other choise than to sell the most popular phones.You just did not know you did. Your local and trusted mobile phone reseller is most likely owned...]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:29:49 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:29:49 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:29:49 -0400 Sep 9, 2004 Tero Vaananen 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560
I have never bought my phone from any operator! Anyhow I think the operator has no other choise than to sell the most popular phones.

"Since...]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:33:28 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:33:28 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:33:28 -0400 Sep 9, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560 Hi Rolf,I think that the business model for the mobile phone market is dramatically different to the business model of PDA's.I agree. For example, an operator might be interested in Microsoft phones in the marketing sense but...]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:25:05 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:25:05 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:25:05 -0400 Sep 9, 2004 Tero Vaananen 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560 Thin-clients and Rich-clients on high-level phones is what is interesting not ring-tones and games, and MS need only to shift their current PDA software to the new phones.RegardsRolf TollerudThey might be interesting to you, but...]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:04:38 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:04:38 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:04:38 -0400 Sep 9, 2004 Tero Vaananen 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560 something approximately like the truthIsn't that one of the definitions of FUD? :)]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2004 07:58:10 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 07:58:10 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 07:58:10 -0400 Sep 9, 2004 Henrique Steckelberg 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560
I think that the business model for the mobile phone market is dramatically different to the business model of PDA's. In the PDA market you only have to market and sell a PDA to your end customers. They only have to use it is in their...]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2004 06:26:20 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 06:26:20 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 06:26:20 -0400 Sep 9, 2004 Erik Kayser 6 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560
But if you extrapolate the views normally vented here in TSS with mine something approximately like the truth will emerge.]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2004 06:25:51 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 06:25:51 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 06:25:51 -0400 Sep 9, 2004 Rolf Tollerud 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28560
If we all would only sell out to M$, the resulting homonogy will make our lives so much better.

Who needs competition, I want integration!!!]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2004 05:53:45 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 05:53:45 -0400 Thu, 09 Sep 2004 05:53:45 -0400 Sep 9, 2004 Jon Kofal 2