Support Forums: Message List - "I'm an EJB proponent. Not just session beans, but ENTITY beans" http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Mon, 20 May 2013 15:54:06 -0400 When everyone screams... the house really may be on fire http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:07:47 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:07:47 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:07:47 -0400 Sep 13, 2004 chuck rhoades 0 "I'm an EJB proponent. Not just session beans, but ENTITY beans" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:23:05 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:23:05 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:23:05 -0400 Sep 13, 2004 Juozas Baliuka 0 Don't ned enterprise design? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:52:11 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:52:11 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:52:11 -0400 Sep 13, 2004 Greg Slonim 0 Don't ned enterprise design? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:55:43 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:55:43 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:55:43 -0400 Sep 13, 2004 Greg Slonim 0 Don't ned enterprise design? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608 How many features of your cellular phone do you actually use? 10%?
Why don't to throw it away to find something that fits better ;-)It depends if the additional features make it very hard to make phone calls :-) True, in a...]]> Mon, 13 Sep 2004 08:17:58 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 08:17:58 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 08:17:58 -0400 Sep 13, 2004 Rod Johnson 2 &quot;I'm an EJB proponent. Not just session beans, but ENTITY beans&quot; http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:33:22 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:33:22 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:33:22 -0400 Sep 13, 2004 Ben Williams 1 Don't ned enterprise design? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608 And yes, 95% of applications being written using J2EE containers don't need an "enterprise" class container or enterprise designs. Its over engineeringHow many features of your cellular phone do you actually use?...]]> Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:22:36 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:22:36 -0400 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:22:36 -0400 Sep 13, 2004 Mike Skorik 3 EJB CMP 2.0 is all but dead...donkey coding? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608 You've never heard that term? Its when you are writing code just because the specs require you to - not because it is adding to your app logic. Like all the interfaces needed to create an EJB. To be fair both .NET and J2EE have that. The...]]> Sun, 12 Sep 2004 16:01:09 -0400 Sun, 12 Sep 2004 16:01:09 -0400 Sun, 12 Sep 2004 16:01:09 -0400 Sep 12, 2004 Juozas Baliuka 0 EJB CMP 2.0 is all but dead...donkey coding? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 14:32:43 -0400 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 14:32:43 -0400 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 14:32:43 -0400 Sep 11, 2004 tom tarb 1 EJB CMP 2.0 is all but dead... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608 2 years in the software industry is a lifetimeBill, tell that to a CEO or CFO who has just spent $50M on a project and now has tech leads tell him he should switch to the newer spec and rewrite the project. The software industry...]]> Sat, 11 Sep 2004 14:30:23 -0400 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 14:30:23 -0400 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 14:30:23 -0400 Sep 11, 2004 tom tarb 0 &quot;I'm an EJB proponent. Not just session beans, but ENTITY beans&quot; http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608 > Writing EJBs is trivial - all it really takes is an awareness that the deployer role isn't the same as the developer role.<br><br>Yet not all companies can afford to divide these roles and hire two separate teams of...]]> Sat, 11 Sep 2004 06:50:30 -0400 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 06:50:30 -0400 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 06:50:30 -0400 Sep 11, 2004 Joseph Ottinger 0 EJB CMP 2.0 is all but dead... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608
The point was that the entity beans part of the spec is now on its 3rd completely incompatible revision in 5 years. That's hardly an "Enterprise" API to me.

I...]]> Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:44:25 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:44:25 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:44:25 -0400 Sep 10, 2004 Jason Carreira 0 &quot;I'm an EJB proponent. Not just session beans, but ENTITY beans&quot; http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608 Writing EJBs is trivial - all it really takes is an awareness that the deployer role isn't the same as the developer role.

Yet not all companies can afford to divide these roles and hire two separate teams of developers and...]]> Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:20:39 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:20:39 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:20:39 -0400 Sep 10, 2004 Valeri Sarantchouk 1 EJB CMP 2.0 is all but dead... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608
- They further insult businesses by constantly changing "Enterprise class" specifications so that within 2 years, I find my "Enterprise" application written with features that are now second-class...]]> Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:14:45 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:14:45 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:14:45 -0400 Sep 10, 2004 Bill Burke 2 EJB CMP 2.0 is all but dead... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28608 - They further insult businesses by constantly changing "Enterprise class" specifications so that within 2 years, I find my "Enterprise" application written with features that are now second-class...]]> Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:19:24 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:19:24 -0400 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:19:24 -0400 Sep 10, 2004 Jason Carreira 3