Support Forums: Message List - Graph Paging: Are we doing O/R mapping wrong? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Thu, 23 May 2013 12:55:18 -0400 Crossing the Chasm http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952 RDBMS's have such a strong foothold in almost all forms of enterprise today that they have ended up designing *us* instead of the other way around. You might ask yourself why they have such a strong foothold. Maybe they are...]]> Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:28:12 -0400 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:28:12 -0400 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:28:12 -0400 Oct 11, 2004 Fredrik Bertilsson 0 Crossing the Chasm http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952 Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:52:09 -0400 Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:52:09 -0400 Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:52:09 -0400 Oct 6, 2004 Gad Barnea 1 Perhaps we need to step back a moment... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952 By criteria? Why let RDBMSs have all the fun?This criteria stuff would just be a re-inventing of SQL. I have seen a number of criteria implementations, and they are either not powerful enough or extremly similar to a select...]]> Wed, 06 Oct 2004 11:06:56 -0400 Wed, 06 Oct 2004 11:06:56 -0400 Wed, 06 Oct 2004 11:06:56 -0400 Oct 6, 2004 Fredrik Bertilsson 0 Perhaps we need to step back a moment... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952 The purpose for using a database is not just for writing information to a disk. How would you implement search functionality in an client application without select statements? By criteria? Why let RDBMSs have all the...]]> Wed, 06 Oct 2004 07:36:29 -0400 Wed, 06 Oct 2004 07:36:29 -0400 Wed, 06 Oct 2004 07:36:29 -0400 Oct 6, 2004 Mark N 1 Perhaps we need to step back a moment... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952 and ask ourselves questions like: why do i need a database at all? when you can have 16GB of main memory for very little cash, do you really need a "database"?The purpose for using a database is not just for writing...]]> Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:26:34 -0400 Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:26:34 -0400 Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:26:34 -0400 Oct 6, 2004 Fredrik Bertilsson 2 Perhaps we need to step back a moment... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952
when you can have 16GB of main memory for very little cash, do you really need a "database"? perhaps a sophisticated object cache will do, writing through to one of the...]]> Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:26:11 -0400 Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:26:11 -0400 Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:26:11 -0400 Oct 5, 2004 tim biernat 3 Graph Paging: Are we doing O/R mapping wrong? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952 Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:44:31 -0400 Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:44:31 -0400 Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:44:31 -0400 Oct 1, 2004 Tom Stewart 0 Is O/R mapping just plain wrong? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952 As for using COBOL in new apps - If one is going to deal with "data" one should use a language suited to dealing with "data" as "data". And COBOL is much better at it than Java.Actually I work a...]]> Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:14:53 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:14:53 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:14:53 -0400 Sep 30, 2004 Fredrik Bertilsson 0 Is O/R mapping just plain wrong? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952 I am not arguing for the use of relational databases everywhere. But I am arguing for not hiding the fact that you working with such database.I think that is a perfectly valid approach for some applications. I'd even take it a...]]> Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:03:54 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:03:54 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:03:54 -0400 Sep 30, 2004 Cameron Purdy 0 Is O/R mapping just plain wrong? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952
Wierd. Cause < 10 ago I was using IMS. And it hasn't gone away in the financial industry.
There are still a lot of COBOL applications in the financial industry too. Is this your programming language of choise...]]> Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:38:12 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:38:12 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:38:12 -0400 Sep 30, 2004 Mark N 1 Is O/R mapping just plain wrong? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952 Wierd. Cause < 10 ago I was using IMS. And it hasn't gone away in the financial industry. There are still a lot of COBOL applications in the financial industry too. Is this your programming language of choise too? There are...]]> Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:26:46 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:26:46 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:26:46 -0400 Sep 30, 2004 Fredrik Bertilsson 2 Is O/R mapping just plain wrong? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952 I am not arguing for the use of relational databases everywhere. But I am arguing for not hiding the fact that you working with such database. Most applications don't need to be neutral to database paradigm. (not trying to sound...]]> Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:27:56 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:27:56 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:27:56 -0400 Sep 30, 2004 Mark N 0 Value of OR Mapping http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952 You say Wrapper, He says Mapper ... .]]> Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:05:36 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:05:36 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:05:36 -0400 Sep 30, 2004 Mark N 0 Is O/R mapping just plain wrong? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952 Read a book about database fundementals and you will understand why the network and hierachical paradigms was abandoned 25 years ago.Wierd. Cause < 10 ago I was using IMS. And it hasn't gone away in the financial industry....]]> Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:03:16 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:03:16 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:03:16 -0400 Sep 30, 2004 Mark N 3 Is O/R mapping just plain wrong? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=28952 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:58:59 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:58:59 -0400 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:58:59 -0400 Sep 30, 2004 Fredrik Bertilsson 2