Support Forums: Message List - Where XML goes astray... and when you should or shouldn't use it http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Mon, 20 May 2013 08:02:00 -0400 Yeah, great... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497 Sorry, I am confused. I can catch meaning of a < b at a glance but really confused when I see a?&amp;lt;b, try to add more comparisons ( ?&amp;lt;a?&amp;gt;? ) ant my brain is a toast.
I am sorry that you are....]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:40:22 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:40:22 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:40:22 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Artem Yegorov 0 Yeah, great... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497
I am not if I do not see a good reason for that.

==Do not tell me that you get so much confused when you see amp or lt or gt.
==What is so unreadable?

Sorry, I...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:42:04 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:42:04 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:42:04 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Konstantin Ignatyev 1 Yeah, great... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497 We all do know that stupid abbreviations for stupid XML parsers.
Parsers cannot be stupid, they do not have a capability of thinking or making decisions, they all are just APIs not AIs. :-) And stupid abbreviations become less...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:54:51 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:54:51 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:54:51 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Artem Yegorov 2 Ant &amp;amp;amp;amp; XML http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497 Sure, but some invite and encourage problematic and wrong practices.
No technology invites and definitely does not encourage any bad practice. It is all in developer's head, developer makes the wrong choices and developer...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:39:18 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:39:18 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:39:18 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Artem Yegorov 0 Yeah, great... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497 All the < > are really &amp;amp;lt; and &amp;amp;gt;Regards,Artem D. Yegorovhttp://www.activexml.orgWe all do know that stupid abbreviations for stupid XML...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:32:16 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:32:16 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:32:16 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Konstantin Ignatyev 3 Yeah, great... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497
Regards,

Artem D. Yegorov
http://www.activexml.org]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:27:33 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:27:33 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:27:33 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Artem Yegorov 0 Ant &amp;amp;amp; XML http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497 No technology is a panacea for every little problem one may have.Sure, but some invite and encourage problematic and wrong practices.

XML is not simple anymore, and bugginess of XML parsers prove it. XML promise was: you...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:26:28 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:26:28 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:26:28 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Konstantin Ignatyev 1 Yeah, great... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497
Regards,

Artem D. Yegorov
http://www.activexml.org]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:24:56 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:24:56 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:24:56 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Artem Yegorov 4 Yeah, great... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497
<select...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:23:21 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:23:21 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:23:21 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Artem Yegorov 6 Ant &amp;amp; XML http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497 James Duncan Davidson, the creator of Ant, has written about the very beginnings of the project. This history lesson shows us how Ant started out with properties files, and grew to XML... and how in many ways he wished it...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:17:52 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:17:52 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:17:52 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Konstantin Ignatyev 0 Ant &amp;amp; XML http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497
Article excerpt:
When there were 10 or 20 keys in the build file, this wasn't so bad. But as projects grew in complexity, editing these files became an exercise in managing the visual noise...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:07:37 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:07:37 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:07:37 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Artem Yegorov 2 Yeah, great... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497 BTW, do you have an example where you enclosed anything in the iBatis config file in CDATA?
Taken from iBatis tests, do you see “ACC_ID < 2” that calls for CDATA for human readability sake.

<select...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:01:58 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:01:58 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:01:58 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Konstantin Ignatyev 7 Ant &amp; XML http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497 Would you rather see Ant build scripts defined in an "old school" configuration format? What would such alternative look like? Something tells me it would be much harder to read, given all the dependencies one has to...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:29:17 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:29:17 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:29:17 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Thies Edeling 4 Yeah, great... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497
It is not a problem with XML, it is a problem with implementations that...]]> Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:49:23 -0400 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:49:23 -0400 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:49:23 -0400 Oct 20, 2004 Artem Yegorov 8 Yeah, great... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29497
It is not a problem with XML, it is a problem with implementations that...]]> Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:43:52 -0400 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:43:52 -0400 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:43:52 -0400 Oct 20, 2004 Artem Yegorov 5