http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:52:43 -0400 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526 With regards to JCA, this is the J2EE Connector Architecture, and JBI does not want to rule out J2SE implementations (although the EDR states that J2EE is expected to be the most frequently used platform).
JCP.org claims that...]]> Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:22:38 -0400 Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:22:38 -0400 Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:22:38 -0400 Oct 22, 2004 Brian Miller 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526
Don't get me wrong. Again, my posts are personal interpretations of how I'm reading the spec and how I think it fits with what my customers are doing.

Obviously, there are people who believe that JBI has its place in the J2SE and/or...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:14:48 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:14:48 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:14:48 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Monte Kluemper 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526
I believe that JBI takes an interesting step in what looks like the right direction; the EG is soliciting...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:14:54 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:14:54 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:14:54 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Oliver Kamps 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526
First, what do you think the BC model offers that cannot be solved by JCA? Industry-specific connectors (like SWIFT, HIPAA, etc.) are being developed as JCA adaptors today. Web Services offer a fairly universal...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:20:36 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:20:36 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:20:36 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Monte Kluemper 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526 Does anyone think that end-users would be more interested in plugging different Web Services containers or BPM containers into WebLogic than they are in plugging in different Web containers or EJB containers? While there may be circumstances...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 03:22:44 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 03:22:44 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 03:22:44 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Oliver Kamps 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526 BOTTOMLINE: I don't see any end-user advantages to creating the plug-and-play container environment envisioned by this JSR. The current focus of BEA and most vendors is to provide artifact portability (via BPEL, XQuery, etc.) and...]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:30:17 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:30:17 -0400 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:30:17 -0400 Oct 21, 2004 Muthu Ramadoss 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526
First, the draft states very clearly that this JSR...]]> Wed, 20 Oct 2004 06:56:35 -0400 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 06:56:35 -0400 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 06:56:35 -0400 Oct 20, 2004 Monte Kluemper 6 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526
The Reason IBM, BEA do not want to support this might be to support BPEL in their own...]]> Wed, 20 Oct 2004 03:36:28 -0400 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 03:36:28 -0400 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 03:36:28 -0400 Oct 20, 2004 Muthu Ramadoss 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526 http://sourceforge.net/projects/mule

Above is just as good if anyone thinks they already have many ws.
.V]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:29:47 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:29:47 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:29:47 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Vic Cekvenich 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526 Development and use of web services for any purpose (and yes, web svc development is quite simple these days) is not the same as building and governing an SOA. The latter typically involves supporting a registry for dynamic discovery of...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:09:46 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:09:46 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:09:46 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Brian Miller 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526
On the note of needing something (X), has anyone considered Webden Interactive's BIE?]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:44:56 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:44:56 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:44:56 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Chris Perrin 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526 That's POJO automation. Can your EJB server do that yet?A great benefit of SOA for me is that its introduction does not need to be planned.
I think your view on the matter is a recipe for disaster in any but the most...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:33:51 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:33:51 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:33:51 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 han theman 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526 Horsefeathers! ... Apache Axis makes it so easy. I don't need to author WSDL, and I can test my service without developing a client by manually typing URLs into my web browser. Axis is very amenable to Rapid Application Development...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:19:59 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:19:59 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:19:59 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Angela Yochem 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526 In either case, although an SOA can be built incrementally, it must be planned up front. As with any large-scale redesign effort, moving either a product or an enterprise to an SOA model requires buy-in at the top levels of...]]> Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:36:39 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:36:39 -0400 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:36:39 -0400 Oct 19, 2004 Brian Miller 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29526 JMS? Jabber? Google? Rest? Soap?? Hessian? Beep? etc?

No need for ESB or BPEL describing it yet.

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