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        <title>Before you even write new code....</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>I dunno.. maybe I'm a bit old school, but I'm influenced by Steve McConnell author of Writing Solid Code and Debugging the Software Development process who suggests that you should step through all your code in the debugger before...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:07:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:07:57 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 27, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gerard Davison</jf:author>
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        <title>Use debuggers even for new code</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I dunno.. maybe I'm a bit old school, but I'm influenced by Steve McConnell author of Writing Solid Code and Debugging the Software Development process who suggests that you should step through all your code in the debugger before checking it...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:51:28 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:51:28 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 26, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cedric Beust</jf:author>
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        <title>re: Linus Torvalds does not like debuggers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Let me paraphrase Linus:<br><br>I hate stupid people.  Stupid people have no business making me aware of their existence, much less contributing to the Linux kernel.  Debuggers help stupid people find trivial bugs.  Finding trivial bugs makes them think...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:59:40 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:59:40 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 26, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Erik Engbrecht</jf:author>
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        <title>Linus Torvalds Does Not Like Debuggers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Linus had posted this message a while back about debuggers. Even though the message is about kernel debuggers, I think there is wisdom in it for debugger use in general. </blockquote><br>Why not avoid the usual development cycle at all? Just...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:16:44 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:16:44 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 26, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Vania Cilli</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Linus Torvalds Does Not Like Debuggers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Linus had posted this message a while back about debuggers. Even though the message is about kernel debuggers, I think there is wisdom in it for debugger use in general. <br><br>Enjoy, <br><br>&gt; <br>&gt; very nice monologue, thanks. It would be great...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:02:52 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:02:52 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:02:52 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Oct 26, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Burak Bayramli</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Debuggers are slow</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Thou it may be tough to get into this habit, i think it definitely makes sense...<br><blockquote><blockquote>Although debuggers do help out in certain situations, I would avoid them if I can. Primarily because they slow you down.</blockquote>I dunno.....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:34:04 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:34:04 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 26, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>NullPtr !</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Debuggers are slow</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Although debuggers do help out in certain situations, I would avoid them if I can. Primarily because they slow you down.</blockquote><br>I dunno.. maybe I'm a bit old school, but I'm influenced by Steve McConnell author of Writing Solid Code...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:03:07 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:03:07 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:03:07 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Oct 25, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Amin Mansuri</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Bugseeker2 from Karmira...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Then again, since moving over to unit testing, I haven't had nearly the need to step through my applications...</blockquote><br>i dont know if u read my post above, but i fail to understand why u r trying to compare unit testing with...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:32:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:32:34 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 25, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>NullPtr !</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Bugseeker2 from Karmira...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I quite liked Bugseeker2 from Karmira, but the company pretty much dropped off the face of the placent a couple of years ago.  Anyone know what happened to them?<br><br><a href="http://www.karmira.com"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:59:46 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 22, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lux Matic</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Debuggers are slow</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[This was a really good joke.....thou i dont quite understand every bit of it :)))<br><br>First of all, u r confusing between testing and debugging. Testing and debugging are not substitues. When ur test case fails, u debug unless its pretty evident whats...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:40:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:40:33 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 22, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>NullPtr !</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Debuggers are slow</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I'd rather figure out how to test the &quot;non-framework&quot; code using a JUnit test rather than letting it go through the debugger.</blockquote><br>You appear to confuse discovering bugs with locating and fixing them.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:22:43 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 22, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>han theman</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Debuggers are slow</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Although debuggers do help out in certain situations, I would avoid them if I can.</blockquote><br>How do you know if you can?<br><br>-- <br>Cedric<br><a href="http://beust.com/weblog" target="_blank">http://beust.com/weblog</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:38:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:38:21 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 22, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cedric Beust</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Debuggers are slow</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Although debuggers do help out in certain situations, I would avoid them if I can.  Primarily because they slow you down.  I'd rather figure out how to test the &quot;non-framework&quot; code using a JUnit test rather than letting it go through the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:40:46 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:40:46 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 22, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Archimedes Trajano</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>7</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Kasia is a women ;)</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It sound a bit strange &quot;The blogger Kasia...&quot;. Kasia is not a nick (I thik). Kasia is popular girl's name in central Europe (just Catrin). Seems that Kasia has Polish roots thus a bit difficult name and surname. Just FYI.<br><br>Artur]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:05:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:05:13 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 22, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Artur Karazniewicz</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>More Debugger Tips</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29589</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[This post<br><a href="http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/howtos/10g/dbg_tips/debugger_tips1.html" target="_blank">http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/howtos/10g/dbg_tips/debugger_tips1.html</a><br>has some cool tricks that the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:15:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:15:23 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 22, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>shay shmeltzer</jf:author>
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