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        <title>XML vs DB vs IDL</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29734</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Yes, but you can't run an automatic validator that reads the generated documentation or PDF and validates your data against it before it enters your system or, even better, before the sender even tries to send it to you. <br><br>A database schema can be...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:42:21 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 22, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christo Angelov</jf:author>
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        <title>Platform independence</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Sure, Java is harware-platform-independent and OS-independent. But it is not language-independent, application-server-platform-independent, and skillset-independent. Nor is .NET. They are two competing (pretty successfully) new types of platforms. What's...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:01:41 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:01:41 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 22, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christo Angelov</jf:author>
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        <title>Hey where's Rolf ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29734</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[He's over posting on Javalobby ..]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:43:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:43:47 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 4, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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        <title>Hey where's Rolf ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29734</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I do hope he's OK !]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 13:54:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 4, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Radu-Adrian Popescu</jf:author>
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        <title>Why .net and Java are different</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29734</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote> Having something that is a bit slower is nothing compared to the organisational nightmare of trying to develop, test and deploy an application with different parts in different languages.  Using just one language allows a high level of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:11:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:11:27 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 4, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Konstantin Ignatyev</jf:author>
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        <title>Has been done</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>By definition, this is impossible.  If you have an emulator, you have to have some software to run it!  If not, you have to have the code run by hardware, but then its not a VM - its a real machine!</blockquote> And there are...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:26:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 4, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Zara</jf:author>
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        <title>Why .net and Java are different</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Simply because one size does not fit all. I am well aware of plenty of other languages for JVM, but still *nix supports more and more complete. There are things that JVM simply does not support ( direct memory manipulation for example...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:24:07 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 4, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Zara</jf:author>
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        <title>Why .net and Java are different</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>There are things that JVM simply does not support ( direct memory manipulation for example )</blockquote><br>I would say that an amazing feature of Java (and several other effective high level languages / platforms) is that you don't...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 19:57:44 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 2, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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        <title>Programming Legends Debate .Net, J2EE</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[As I understand XML is more than just text file. It must be possible to send XML message without metadata too. Metadata and mapping to transform binary data to SAX events  can be cached on client and on server, It needs a version number in message to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 12:07:36 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 2, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Juozas Baliuka</jf:author>
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        <title>Programming Legends Debate .Net, J2EE</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Do you still care to explain the &quot;Think about what formal contracts mean and you will see the s-expressions are not the answer.&quot; assertion ? I'd be genuinely interested.</blockquote>I'd be interested in an explanation too.  Before...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 12:01:19 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 2, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dilip Ranganathan</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[I agree that XML scales - as you well put it - &quot;in a social sense&quot;, especially if you use document-oriented communication between parties. I've seen it in practice, but it feels like something's amiss; I do wish for strongly-typed IDL...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 10:23:22 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 2, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Radu-Adrian Popescu</jf:author>
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        <title>Why .net and Java are different</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Java is not good candidate for a full OS therefore it should not even try, it should go back on track and excel as a glue framework for writing business applications, not databases, not mail servers.</blockquote>Why on Earth not?...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 10:11:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 2, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Konstantin Ignatyev</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The above shows that you're either spending time with the wrong crowd or simply making unfounded allegations. People who do Java and get to make decisions regarding inter-systems communication are not that narrow minded.</blockquote><br>Well,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:45:56 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 2, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>aljeru</jf:author>
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        <title>Why .net and Java are different</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>.NET also runs in a VM.  Iron - WIN - CLR/VM - .NET </blockquote>For a while, then they will eliminate Win.</blockquote><br>If that's the case, then why did they go through the trouble of creating their own VM in the first place if their...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:45:21 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 2, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dustin Barlow</jf:author>
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        <title>Programming Legends Debate .Net, J2EE</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>XML Schema's are not only about validation. I need a way to tell the people who build that software that calls my service, what the message should look like. I don't care if they validate befoer sending it, and I might not even validate it on...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:09:50 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 2, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Juozas Baliuka</jf:author>
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