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        <title>Whats interesting in the book?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I have also read the book, and I agree that there is very little to get excited about.<br><br>In terms of this general thread, I do think that MOF, UML and so on are an important starting point for DSL definition. Nevertheless, they are limited. Both...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2004 15:26:59 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 27, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andy Evans</jf:author>
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        <title>Whats interesting in the book?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I have spend a few hours on the book &quot;Software factories&quot; and I'm not very exited.<br><br>To start with the positive points:<br>Chapter 8 &quot;Language Anatomy&quot; and chapter 9 &quot;Families of Languages&quot; are worth reading. <br>The...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:45:07 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:45:07 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 10, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Stefan Vaillant</jf:author>
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        <title>Proprietary...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Instead of using UML and MOF they are cooking with their proprietary stuffs.</blockquote><br>Sure, UML is <b>far</b> from perfrect.  But the beauty of neutral metamodels like MOF and XMI is that DSLs can benefit from general purpose MDA...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:57:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:57:16 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 10, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Brian Miller</jf:author>
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        <title>MOF and semantic web</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[From my understanding, it's not so much that MOF is trying to include semantic web. My understanding is a need for business rule markup. The problem I see with trying to wedge a rule semantic into MOF is the examples look procedural to me. I lean towards...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:49:10 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 10, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>slowness</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[The MS articles are spot on, what a breath of fresh air.<br><br>UML/MOF/XMI is too complex, bloated and incomplete at the<br>same time ! Meta-models need to be small expressive kernels <br>that don't change much. Many of the problems of MOF arose <br>for...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:18:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:18:16 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 10, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mikhail Franco</jf:author>
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        <title>slowness</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[the double edge of being inclusive. on one hand, we have a process that tries to balance the needs of a diverse group of people. On the otherside, MS will most likely decide what they want to implement and hope customers find it usable. Neither approach...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:54:01 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:54:01 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 10, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Thanks1</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29860</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Thanks for provide the pointers to &quot;Software Factories&quot;.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:28:52 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:28:52 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 10, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andrew Yang</jf:author>
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        <title>OMG is slow</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[We have to admit that MS is fast in pushing tool support to the desktop. Eventually this might make the big difference. OMG is crawling. Still the UML spec. is missing the full set of notations. When will UML 2.0 be standardized ? The only good idea in...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 00:48:00 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 00:48:00 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 10, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>MOHAN RADHAKRISHNAN</jf:author>
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        <title>Where are Part 1 and Part 2?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Where can I find the first two parts?</blockquote><br><a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/architecture/overview/softwarefactories/" target="_blank">Software Factories</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 23:36:07 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 9, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joe Parks</jf:author>
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        <title>maybe?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[maybe Microsoft prefers to make the same mistakes everyone else outside of Microsoft world has already made. Nothing quite like making the same mistakes to really learn a lesson well. I fail to see how an offering from Microsoft could be revolutionary in...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 09:36:06 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 09:36:06 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 9, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Where are Part 1 and Part 2?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29860</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[This is &quot;The third in a four-part series of articales about software factories...&quot;<br><br>Where can I find the first two parts?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 08:57:08 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 08:57:08 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 9, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andrew Yang</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Proprietary...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Yes, this is true. Typical MS...<br><br>Instead of using UML and MOF they are cooking with their proprietary stuffs. Read on this article:<br>&quot;Steve Cook Microsoft&quot;<br><a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 06:38:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 06:38:16 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 9, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lofi Dewanto</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>9</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Proprietary</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Microsoft is in the way to MDA with a proprietary notation language - I didn&#xb4;t see this language and the new VS .Net with this kind of technology but this is Generative Programming in a proprietary way (this is my opinion for now - I will try to ge...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 06:03:30 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 9, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>glauco scheffel</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>10</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>What's new?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29860</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[... And there is problem with this...<br><br>I mean: And there is NO problem with this... :-)<br><br>Lofi.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 04:55:38 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 9, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lofi Dewanto</jf:author>
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        <title>What's new?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[IMHO, theoretically nothing new ;-). But as this comes from Microsoft (and others... IBM, ...) the chance to make this paradigm to reach &quot;normal developers&quot; would be higher. <br><br>So, let's say Microsoft wants to bring this kind of Software...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 04:53:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 9, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lofi Dewanto</jf:author>
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