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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The simplicity and transparency of proxies is hard to beat.</blockquote><br>Proxy based approach is a fine one which is why the next version of JBoss AOP will have a proxy framework in place.  Its mostly implemented and our current EJB3...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>or an approach wrapping arguments in object arrays every time when an advice gets executed vs a more rich approach with straitght access to the arguments (thru direct reference</blockquote><br>I have yet to write an aspect (probably same with...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Peter. Have you ever used AspectWerkz? It does not extend the Java syntax [...]</blockquote>I have - I was  thinking of AspectJ there. AspectWerkz does not have anywhere near that impact. It's still <a...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Dec 1, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Peter den Haan</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[No matter what you may think, the Spring team is already working on optimization and tunning options, and we will include that in AWbench and publish new results based on their input. You can already check for preliminary figures on Spring mailing...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:29:26 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 1, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alex Vasseur</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Peter. <br><br>Have you ever used AspectWerkz? <br>It does not extend the Java syntax, it is annotation and or xml defined plain Java. <br>It is not in any way more complex and harder to integrate into J2EE environments than Spring AOP. It takes perhaps...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Dec 1, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jonas Bon?r</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Last reply. Promise :)<blockquote>But we do need to be careful about the performance arguments we make. Down the road, you aren't going to want to be using an AOP framework that doesn't have efficiency comparable (or better than) the best that AspectJ...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Dec 1, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Peter den Haan</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>That's a purely academic and frankly irrelevant argument. In the real world [blah blah blah]</blockquote>I just realised that this looks like an attempt to dismiss you as &quot;an academic&quot;. My apologies. I do not. I just feel that the...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Peter den Haan</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>They better be [faster], because both (especially AspectJ) address a totally different use case.</blockquote>AspectJ and AspectWerkz are intended for the full range from micro-fine to coarse-grained. So its not so much a different...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Dec 1, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Peter den Haan</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>[...] i was also looking into using [Spring] for its AOP capabilities. but now after reviewing these benchmarks as listed on the site.....i may have to reconsider.</blockquote>No it didn't. Of the list, only AspectJ and...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Nov 30, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gregor Kiczales</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>well after being more than pleased with Spring's ease of use/integration with Hibernate in the financial web application i am currently working on, i was also looking into using it for its AOP capabilities. but now after reviewing these...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Nov 30, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Alex,<br><br>I think it is a great idea to continue this test suite and I am certainly happy to get involved on the Spring side of things. As I am sure you are aware there is a lot of tweaking that can be done to the Spring configuration to improve the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:21:17 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Rob Harrop</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[AWbench does not aim at pushing AspectWerkz 2.x as a rocking things. AspectWerkz 2.x is still a ReleaseCandidate.<br><br>We have simply observed that since more than 6 months, for every AOP talk and every AOP related announcement (be it AspectWerkz or...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Nov 30, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alex Vasseur</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>[...] i was also looking into using [Spring] for its AOP capabilities. but now after reviewing these benchmarks as listed on the site.....i may have to reconsider. if i am reading it correctly Spring performed HORRIBLY compared to the rest of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 04:20:46 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 30, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Peter den Haan</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[First of all, great performance numbers from AspectWerkz 2.0 RC - congratulations to the team! However, the benchmark exercise might be quite misleading to readers. In response to Ben, in particular: Spring certainly does't perform &quot;horribly&quot;...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Nov 30, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Juergen Hoeller</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[In our implementation of the bench ALL of the frameworks does EXACTLY the same thing in each single comparison. Noone is doing any extra work that you might benefit from later. <br><br>It simply shows the execution time of different aspects, taking...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Nov 30, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jonas Bon?r</jf:author>
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